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Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Shri Guru Parampara! Pranams!   I have almost completed the structure of the above menu. I have added many more relevant sub-levels including Nityaananda Gauraanga Mantraraajas etc. Also added are the arrows to show the sub-levels which have sub-sub levels. Are there any other suggestions? You can always post in this forum topic at a later date whenever you get an idea of some new topic which should be included in this menu.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

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Re: acceptance and equal vision

Do not the results speak for themselves?

Yes Hadai, these are miraculous results (removal of throat cancer) of Nityaananda and Gauraanga Naama due to your faith in Them. They can solve all our problems if we apply Them with faith. Thank you for sharing.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

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God is good or bad

In the doctoring of Christianity we are told from a very early age about the devil, evil, and fallen angels etc. Let try and digest that in a simple way. In the old books of India Brahma Samhita which is known as the oldest book we find this verse.

�Krsna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead.  He has an eternal blissful spiritual body.  He is the origin of all.  He has no other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.�

Ok some will say we don�t believe in Krsna. Yes quite rightly so as many Christians are warned about so called false Gods. But what is a name. Here the Sun is called Araw, in India its called Surya, and most English speaking country�s it called the Sun. Similarly the name of God may be different in other countries or languages.

Anyhow lets get back to the Brahma Samhita verse Supreme Godhead.  He has an eternal blissful spiritual body.  He is the origin of all.  He has no other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.� God is the origin of all that be; He has no other origin, and He is the prime cause of all causes.

So if that is the case what ever is created is coming from God even the devil, fallen angels etc. (good or bad). In the Indian scriptures such as the Bhagavad Gita the illusionary energy (Maya) is the so called dark force, but we know the light always over comes the dark.

Why do we have these dark forces?

Its because we wanted to enjoy separately from God, and some dark forces are stronger then other, but they are always defeated by God Himself.
The body is only a vehicle for the soul. People who identify with the body think there are belong to a race, but the spirit soul has nothing to do with this.

lowerthanarat

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Bhakti

The Lord is so merciful to me for allowing this sinner to chant his name.  This sinner is gradually being lured into his domain. It is  blissful and ecstatic in the company of god, chanting his name and remembering him.  Most of the times, this sinner remain thoughtless and madly murmuring his name. The hands of clock swings back to material world very frequently like a monkey jumping from one branch to another. swamiji, kindly englighten me and show the path to  the lotus feet of god.

Glories to the Lord, Hare Krishna
ganesanmurthy

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Re: acceptance and equal vision

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

Thank you so much dear Nava, for sharing this verse from Bhagavad Gita. This discussion is 108% according to highest siddhantha � acintyabheda-abheda doctrine of Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu! At the same time  �Actually any living entity, being part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa, is Kṛṣna.�; and yet, at the same time, He is Supreme Controlor and Person. This is confirmed in Isopanishad:

om purnam adah purnam idam
purnat purnam udachyate
purnasya purnam adaya
purnam evavashishyate

The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete. And because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as a complete whole. Whatever is produced of the complete whole is also complete by itself. And because He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance.

Nava wrote:

The point I was trying to bring out is, for souls like me who have not yet tasted this pure love in separation, we need to find ��balance�� and peace in our spiritual life.

Yes, I completely agree. As we can see � we can discuss about same topic from different levels of realizations or understanding. Where we are, what is highest sidhantha etc. I just gave some references in my previous post according to what I heard from Guru and sastra. Off course, we all are aspirants or babies in this path, but sometimes we shoul remember and talk about highest goals.

Few more things. Please correct me if I am wrong. From absolute point of view there is always gradation. When Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabu asked Srilla Ramananda Raya numerous questions, he gave perfect aswers, yet Lord Gauranga always wanted to go further, deeper.  This gradation is not material, it is spiritual, completely different from our experience. There are Krsna�s friends, sakhas, but there are also his most confidentional friends priya-narma-sakhas. There are manjaris, young girls, and there are astha-sakhis, eight principal gopis. But this gradatation is perfect and absolute. And, just as you said �In vaikuntha according to Sri Brhad Bhagavatamrta each devotee is feeling complete happiness in his relation with the Lord.�

Nava wrote:

My inability to do that kind of pure preaching is surely my shortcoming.

Dear Nava, there is no shortcomings in our attempt to discuss and talk about Krsna. Sometimes we may present different arguments, from different scriptures or levels, but goal is that we are advancing by speaking, hearing, meditating about Krsna. I am fool, but still have small hope in this process of mercy, in association of devotees like you and members of this sanga, in Gurudeva, scriptures and Naam. Sometimes I am quoting from scriptures, or repeating what I have heard from Guru, sadhu or sastras, because this is our hope in spiritual life. This is confirmed in Srimad Bhagavatam (1.2.17):

srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah
punya-sravana-kirtanah
hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani
vidhunoti suhrt satam

   "Sri Krsna, the Personality of Godhead, who is the Paramatma [Supersoul] in everyone's heart and the benefactor of the truthful devotee, cleanses desire for material enjoyment from the heart of the devotee who relishes His messages, which are in themselves virtuous when properly heard and chanted."

Therefore let us continue to  discuss and talk about this science of bhakti! Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

Fool�smi Igor

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Re: un answered question

Dandbats Maharajs and vaisnavas

                          I may be right that we cannot know truth without pure love of Si Gauranga Gauranga, but dear friend does that mean their is no pure devotee on the planet who can answer my question of Jaiva Dharma ch 24.?
yanra citte krishna-prema karaye udaya
tanra vakya, kriya, mudra vijneha na bujhaya

"Even the most learned man cannot understand the words, activities and symptoms of a person situated in love of Godhead."C.C.Madhya 23.39

with repeated danabats to all

lowerthan arat

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Re: Naam-shiksha and Naam-diksha

Naama Shiksha and Naama Diksha

Answer by Swami Gaurangapada
Transcribed by Sarvabhauma dasa

Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Shri Guru Parampara! Pranams to everyone. Thank you, Matus for your nice question. Actually Nama shiksha has been the way of transmission of Nama in our Parampara right from the beginning. Harinama,Gaura Nama, Nitai Nama. Nama is totally independent of any other process � diksha puruscariya viddhi apekshana kare. Nama is not expecting any kind of process in its power to purify the individual who is chanting the Name. So, apekshana kare � the Nama will act whether it is received by shiksha or diksha. The Naama is always most powerful. It is non different from Naami, the Lord. The integral nature of the Name is not going to change whether it is received by diksha or shiksha. So, if you see in our Gaudiya Parampara Lord Gaurahari Himself, it is not mentioned that He received the Nama from Ishvara Puri, but it is mentioned He received diksha in a mantra which is the ten-syllable Gopala Mantra, which drowned Him in an ocean of ecstasy. But He received the instruction from His Guru that: naco gao bhakta sane koro sankirtana krishna nama upadeshi tara sarva jana: �You dance and sing the Names and give the Names to everyone and deliver everyone.� That is what the Lord�s guru instructed Him. But in Harinama Chintamani also by Bhaktivinode Thakur who is the nama rasika acariya who is fully aware of the debth of the Nama Tattva, because he could see the conversation between Haridas Thakur and Lord Gaura in his heart regarding Nama Tattva. So Bhaktivinod Thakur got a full grasp, he is nama-tattva-vit and he coposed HNC in which he describes that though Naam is traditionally not given as diksha still nam can formally be given also as diksha, the formal initiation. We even see in Gaudiya Math during the time of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada the first diksha was known as Ashraya diksha and the second initiation was actually known as diksha, actually not the Naam but it was the Gayatri mantras. That is why it was known as diksha. One could also consider that according to Harinama Cintamani the first process of nama ashraya, hearing the name from the lips of Gurudev and beginning to chant, that process of nama shiksha can also be formalised in the form of nama diksha. That is confirmed by Bhaktivinode Thakur in Harinama Cintamani that there can be one Naama diksha guru and there can be many Naama shiksha gurus. And the Naama diksha guru can himself be the Naama shiksha guru also by imparting more and more detailed teachings of the nama-tattva, the chanting of the names, to the disciple. So, our AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, he formalized the process of nama shiksha into hari nama diksha. It is his unique contribution to this world. He was the first acariya to implement the teachings of Harinama Cintamani which talks about nama diksha even the nama can be received through formal initiation. In that way both the processes are bonafide as we can learn because Gaurahari and all acariyas they used to chant and sing the Naama, they received mantra shiksha an mantra diksha from their gurus. And those mantras were different from the normal Harinam, Gauranam and Nitai Naam Those mantras were starting with the bija mantras, the Gayatri mantras, the klim mantras. And on the other hand the process of Nama diksha receiveing the Nama directly from the lips of guru in a formal way - that is also approved by HNC. Though Nama is so powerful it does not necessarily have to be received in a formal way. It can be received by shiskha.  Somebody can view a video of one�s Guru chanting the Naam and one can be inspired by the divine sound vibration emanating from the lips of Guru and one can begin chanting. That itself � the connections is there, because one has taken ashraya of the Guru who is chanting the Naam, who is giving the Naam. So, Naama shiksha and Naama diksha both are bonafide processes in Kali Yuga. This has been quite a controversial subject matter in our Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya, but my understanding and our understanding is that both processes are bonafide and both are transcendental because both have been practiced and implemented by our Acariyas. So, the most important thing is to receive the Naam, either by shiksha or by diksha from a personality who realizes himself or herself the potency of Naam, the depth of Naam, the spiritual power of Naam. Then our chanting will automatrically fructify very quicjkly. And then one can always take Naama shiksha further from many other advanced devotes who are chanting Naam, nama�tattva-vit. One can always take further guidance, but even the primary naama shiksha guru is normally one and the naama diksha guru is also one. One cannot have many naama diksha gurus for one particular naam. There can be only one naama diksha guru and there can be one primary naama shiksha guru. Whether you receive naama formally from the lips of Gurudev as nama shiksha the naam is going to have effect if you take ashraya of guru and the naam. Of course for getting brahminical qualification like worshipping the Deity and other activities one requires to receive the mantra diksha also. That is more formal kind of a process - Pancaratriki viddhi. The Mantra Diksha is also described in our scriptures � it reinforces our naama bahjan, it does not substitute our naam bhajan, because Naam is the main thing in Kali Yuga. So, one may take mantra diksha or one may not take mantra dishka, but it doesn�t mean that one is not qualified to chant the naam. Everyone is qualified. Acandale. Krishnadas Kaviraja Goswami says that even a lowest person if one vibrates the tongue and chants the Naam one will become purified. The naam will not wait, the Naam wil not think that �O, this individual has not taken diksha!�. The naam is all-powerful. But the process for receiving it from a realized soul � that is very powerful! It opens to us the whole treasure of Naam, either by shiksha or by diksha. I hope I am able to reply to some of your questions in this message. Please let me know if you need further clarifications.
Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Raama Hare Raama Raama Raama Hare Hare

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Re: acceptance and equal vision

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna!

Dear Swamiji and devotees please accept my humble obeisances.

Brahmavadis see a blend of brahman, paramatma, and bhagavan in everything. Mayavadis see brahman in everything. Paranoids see an intimidation in everything. Devotees see the Lord dancing in everything. They all have in common: they see something in everything. When our primary understanding is strongly influenced it super-imposes all that we perceive. However the Absolute Truth is no projection. It is the core of everything. In our conditioned state we can�t see that core. So how do we know about it?  From authority. When the Absolute Truth descends down from the Lord via His pure devotee to His aspiring devotee something very extra-ordinary happens: He plants a very special seed in the heart of the devotee. That seed fructifies by devotional service and by no means through theoretical application. So there is a subtle but very significant difference between the so-called super-imposition of the devotee and that of the non-devotee. The devotee is anointed to see a spiritual reality not overlaying his perspective but manifested via the core of his being. He doesn�t need any theory in order to self-manipulate himself into a spiritual vision, he has a spiritual vision.

When we watch Nava�s latest beautiful video we clearly see that he got a genuine glimpse of spiritual vision that overrules any theoretical or speculative approach. He is in awe because of his anointed vision that was given to him by the most merciful Lord. Swamiji extends this unlimited mercy and empowers and encourages Nava to speak from the heart. The result is a unique experienced understanding that stands out from the regular copy/paste understanding. When Nava says that �in a higher sense there is no need to feel sad or poor about our station� he fully speaks from the heart and his understanding is anointed with divine vision. I personally think that before we react to such a statement we should see where it comes from. When a devotee genuinely tells me �I am very happy� do I point out: �sorry but you are not happy� and then I try to convince him of this? What will the result be other then that we come into a myriad of arguments that is mostly a mix of different layers of understanding? By the way nothing personal�just for the benefit of all. I would like to illustrate this a bit further with the following�

I have hold this back for a few months since I wanted to know the permanent character of something very special I have experienced myself. It is fully beyond rational understanding, no science can compete with this and only the Lord is to be credited for this miracle. Here it is: A friend of my wife had throat-cancer. She came to visit us and you could see a big lump on the side of her throat and she was very worried. She was scheduled to get it surgically removed the next day and she also would undergo tests if anything had been spread out to other parts of her body. Erica is 36 years old and was of course very nervous about it. I don�t know why but it was almost as if I witnessed myself when I asked her if it was ok to lay my hands on her throat. She was fine with it. I stood behind her and laid my hands tenderly on her throat and lump and started silently chanting �Nityananda Gauranga�. After about 5 minutes I felt my hands vibrating �Nityananda Gauranga� and I saw her taking a deep breath and she became very relaxed. The whole thing lasted maybe 10 minutes and I told her afterwards that the vibration of two extremely holy Names had descended in her throat. Naturally she wanted to know the holy Names so I told her �Nityananda� and �Gauranga� and by the time she left she was singing �Nityananda Gauranga Nityananda Gauranga Nityananda Gauranga�. The next morning she called: �The lump is gone!� She went to the hospital as scheduled and pictures were taken and other tests were done and there was no trace of the cancer anymore. We are now a few months later and yesterday she got the results in from tests taken a week ago�and it is officially declared that she is cancer free.

Scientists and doctors are totally in the blank when it comes to explaining what happened with Erica. Their theory says that something like this cannot happen overnight. Even though they have seen it with their own eyes, they still don�t believe it. From my point of view it happened all so spontaneously. I just had to lay my hands on her throat that night and chanted �Nityananda Gauranga�. I could feel that the Lord�s vibration entered into my hands and transferred into her throat. I saw her becoming calm at that very moment and that was all on my side. And of course the happiness that I got her to chant the holy names of the Lord. This whole experience confirms Nava�s experience. When we are somehow or other able to see our Lordships in others that very vision is not only making us happy but it has a profound effect on others too. Coming back to the beginning: is it from the outside-in super-imposed perception or is it from the inside-out core perception? To me it is core perception because how could I otherwise witness such an incredible miracle? However in this stage of understanding does it even matter what perception it is? Do not the results speak for themselves?

Your servant,

Hadai Nityananda dasa

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna!

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