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Tuesday, March 25, 2008

Re: Bhaktivinoda states that Gauranga naam-lila is the only way


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!

Thank You very much Jagannath Gauranga dasa prabhu for posting this chapter of Navadvipa Dhama Mahatmya. i feel it is very important to remember again and again the mercy showed by Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura by revealing the secret of Nityananda Gauranga Naam in His writings.

i have recorded a video narration of this chapter which i am posting here for Your pleasure, as well as the pleasure of Swami Gaurangapada Gurudeva, all the devotees and Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura. May Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura shower His blessings upon us.

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Your insignificant servant,
Matus



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What is in the Name?


When there are so many interesting and creative stuffs in life whats the need of spending time in chanting some ones name/



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Re: Visiting the Vaikunthas and getting association of the Lord


Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna! It is true that Goloka is located much much above us in the spiritual world. What I meant is that one can be transported or find oneself there in an instant i.e. it will be always available to us in the perfected stage. This vision is only possible with eyes tinged with the salve of pure love.

You will yourself know if it is real or a hallucination in the advanced stage. Just like you know that you have to stop eating because your stomach is full or satisfied. That is not a hallucination. You just know in reality that you have to stop eating. You fully realize and understand that it is a truth that you have to stop eating, not something you are imagining.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Visiting the Vaikunthas and getting association of the Lord


Nityaananda!!!Gouranga!!!Hare Krishna!!! All glories to the Gurus!!!

Dear Swamiji,
                           Thank you very much for answering my question. I was thinking this for a long time that everything is on earth and can happen on earth. Spiritual Goloka is also situated on earth, but is not visible to everybody. But the scriptures give a depiction of the  existence including spritual and material. They give the location of the planets. Even we have some stories where we see airplanes coming from Vaikuntha or other heavenly planets to take devotees. So I dont know how to understand your answer that everything will manifest infront of one's divine eyes. We definitely cannot analyze the absolute platform with our material senses. So do we need completely purified senses to analyze the things on the absolute platform.
Gouranga's causeless mercy is what I pray for so that I can get out of this state of mind that I am currently in. Also Swamiji even if something wonderful manifests infront of our divine eyes then how do we differentiate it from a hallucination.Please forgive any offenses in my writing and kindly answer.  --y.s. truthseeker.



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Re: 700 verses in Gita


Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna! That's an interesting calculation. As far as I am aware, there is no specific significance to the number 700 as the number of verses in the Gita. In the Gita with 700 verses, the breakup of the verses spoken is as follows: Lord Krishna - 574, Arjuna - 84, Sanjaya - 41, and Dhritarashtra - 1, Total = 700.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Greatest Vaishnava


Lord Nityaananda is also very famous in quickly removing the specific distresses of those who chant His Holy Names with that desire.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Visiting the Vaikunthas and getting association of the Lord


Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna! Even though Vaikuntha or the spiritual world is very far, still it is very near. The greatness of the infinite is that it is able to manifest itself fully to the finite soul whenever the infinite wants. It will automatically start manifesting in front of the inner eyes of your soul when you reach the seventh stage of Asakti or when you start chanting the pure Names with Rupa, Guna and Lilaa. It is not necessarily a question of changing the location and visiting Vaikuntha. It will just manifest in front of your divine eyes when you are qualified to see it and it surely can be during this lifetime.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Euthanize of pet question


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krsna!

Dear Bhakta Ron,

I just wrote you a long response and accidentally hit the delete button sad

Anyhow, I will make a few short notes again. I also got my dog before I made deeper commitment in devotional life, so I take charge and responsibility as a dog owner. Some devotees may not understand, but this dog has taught me many things, as I am a single man. He taught me about care and nurture, and thinking about someone else rather than just myself. Guru is there in all times if we can see. Gradually our hearts awaken, birth after birth.

I have been reading Sri Brhad Bhagavatamrita and am deeply touched by Sanatana Goswami's devotion soaked writing. At one point in the first section of the book I saw Krsna in a very sweet light. Loving simple caring! Such affection for the residents of Vraj. I know am not qualified to deeply relish such a  mood with God, but I aspire for it deeply.

Take heart Ron, as we dive into Naam and Katha, Krsna will keep all well, in love and care. Simple in service. That's what I love about this path we are on; we don't have to be big philosophers or speculators, or grand. But by some good fortune we may aspire for simplicity and humility. Hopefully grace may teach us humilities ways day by day. I am sure of it in this human birth!.

So day by day, little step by little step I have faith that Krsna will lead us home. Detachment is an easy concept to read in a book, but life's arrangements will teach us all deep lessons in detachment eventually, then we will have tasted the loving hand of God. So gently goes it hey! smile

Even in the greatest pain of separation, out of love and compassion, Krsna comes to soothe the heart inflamed. Even our little doggies will taste the nectar of Krsna katha oneday.

in love and service....Nava.



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Re: Euthanize of pet question


Ron now that you have a dog take care of it. until it leaves its body, ( dont kill it even if the dog is suffering)
In the mean time you can develop your Gauranga spiritual life.

Our only prayer is to become a good practitioner in spiritual life. Your dog has its own destiny ;
just take care of it dont over feed it..

Dont worry too much about the dog just take care of your own spiritual life.

lowerthanarat



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Re: Why do we need Guru?


In Sri Bhagavad Gita Lord krsna says

     What ever we think at the time of death according to what we desire and what we desirve, that body we will get.

To getrid of our unwanted desires it my take many millions of life times.

lets check this out

                          tad viddhi pranipatena
                             pariprasnena sevaya
                            upadeksyanti te jnanam
                          jnaninas tatt va-darsinah

  go deeper
by taking or reciving initiation  we belong to the Guru our life is not our own

If we are initiated and we do not follow the order of the Guru all sorts of things can happen.

; pariprasnena--by submissive inquiries; sevaya--by the rendering of service

So we need to understand what this means, and meditate on this.

Sevaya service, Submission.

By pleasing the spiritual master Lord krsna is please, but if we displease the guru the soul has no shelter anywhere.



adiksitasya vamoru krtam sarvam nirarthakam pasu-yonim avapnoti diksa-virahito janah 

�Unless one is initiated by a bona fide spiritual master, all his devotional activities are useless.  A person who is not properly initiated can descend again into the animal species.�
Hari-bhakti-vilasa (2.10) further quotes:

ato gurum pranamyaivam sarva-svam vinivedya ca grhniyad Vaisnavam mantram diksa-purvam vidhanatah 

�It is the duty of every human being to surrender to a bona fide spiritual master.  Giving him everything--body, mind and intelligence--one must take a Vaisnava initiation from him.�




Sri Sri Damodarastakam
Eight Prayers to Lord Damodara Whose Belly is Bound by a Rope
including the Sanskrit commentary of Srila Sanatana Gosvami
entitled Dig-Darsini-Tika

One Must Always Be Initiated

     3. In the Agama-��stra it is said:  A person born in a br�hma�a family who has not yet accepted initiation is not qualified to perform the duties of a br�ham�a. Such a person must accept initiation.
     4.  Such a person who is not yet initiated is not qualified to chant mantras, worship the Deity, or perform other brahminical duties. For his own benefit such a person must accept initiation. This truth is confirmed by the words of Lord �iva."
     5. In the Skanda Pur��a, K�rttika-m�h�tmya, in a conversation of Brahm� and N�rada, it is said:  Persons who are not initiated into the path of devotion to Lord Hari and who do not worship Lord Him are like animals. What benefit can they attain by living such a life?"

please Sri Guru Gauranga and the vaisnavas let me not offend no one, and bless my in my spiritual practice

lowerthanarat



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Re: Why do we need Guru?


And  if we do find a bona fide Guru and dont take initiation from him then we take birth again in animal life. posted by lowerthanarat


Could you please clarify this point further, and if possible with references where you learnt this.

thank you...Nava.



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Bhaktivinoda states that Gauranga naam-lila is the only way


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!
Dandavats and obeissances.

Here is the first part of Navadvipa dhama mahatmya written by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura. This is an extremely important passage so please read and digest.

All glories to Lord Chaitanya, the moon of Navadvipa and son of mother Shaci! All glories to Nityananda Raya, the avadhuta! All glories to Shri Advaita Prabhu, the Supreme Lord! All glories to Shri Gadadhara and Shrivasa Pandita! All glories to Navadvipa-dhama, the essence of all dhamas! And all glories to the residents of Navadvipa, the associates of Gauranga!

Offering obeisances to the feet of all the devotees, I will now briefly describe Shri Navadvipa-dhama. Even the demigods headed by Lord Brahma do not know the unlimited glories of Navadvipa-mandala, so who can possibly describe that dhama fully? Since the thousand-mouthed Shesha cannot describe it completely, how can I, an insignificant living entity, do so? Even Lord Shiva can find no end to the unlimited glories of Navadvipa-dhama. Nevertheless, the desire of Shri Chaitanya is powerful, and according to His wish the devotees have given me an order. Therefore, by the mercy of the devotees, I hereby describe the glories of Nadia.

There is one other topic I would like to mention. As it is a confidential matter, I hesitate to disclose it. But, on the other hand, I cannot resist telling it, for Lord Chaitanya instructed His devotees to publicize the glories of His pastimes and abode after His disappearance. Though Shri Chaitanya is the most concealed of all avataras, I know well that He is all in all. But because His confidential activities are described ambiguously in scripture, the nondevotees are unable to realize them. For a long time Mayadevi kept hidden the confidential scriptures that describe Lord Chaitanya's pastimes. These topics are described in both the unmanifest scriptures, which were scattered here and there, as well as in the manifest scriptures. Maya kept all these scriptures hidden from view by covering the eyes of the scholars.

After Gauranga completed His pastimes on earth, however, His obedient servant Mayadevi, understood the desire of the Lord. She lifted the veil of illusion from the eyes of the living entities and revealed the true nature of Shri Gauranga within this material universe. Thus the hidden meaning in the scriptures became easily revealed, and the arguments inhibiting understanding Lord Chaitanya were dispelled. It was the all-merciful Nityananda Prabhu who revealed the truth about Gauranga in the hearts of the living entities. On His command, Maya pulled away the covering so that the pure devotee scholars could receive this precious treasure of the scriptures.

If one remains doubtful in spite of the scriptural evidence, he is most unfortunate and useless. Why should he continue living? When Nityananda Prabhu distributed the mercy, the fortunate living entities accepted and reached the perfection of happiness.

Everyone should know the symptoms of the unfortunate living entity as well; it is he who is overconfident of the power of his own intelligence. Such a person rejects the mercy of the Lord, and by the force of false logic he falls repeatedly into the pit of illusion.

"Come, spirit souls of Kali-yuga! Give up this hypocrisy and just accept the pure ecstatic love of Shri Gauranga!" In this way Nityananda Prabhu would call out again and again. But still the unfortunate living entities did not accept.

Now let us consider carefully why these people do not accept such wonderful love of God. In pursuit of happiness, living entities in the material world follow various processes, such as logic or mystic yoga. And, in quest of happiness, some give up the material world and go to the forest, while kings constantly wage wars amongst themselves. Desiring happiness, others run after women and wealth, while others take to arts and sciences. In pursuit of happiness, others reject happiness and learn to tolerate the miseries of life, and still others simply drown themselves in the ocean.

Raising His lotus hands in the air, Lord Nityananda exclaims, "Come, living entities! Give up the troubles of karma and jnana. Since you are endeavoring for happiness, I will give you happiness without asking anything in exchange. In this happiness there is no trouble, loss, or pain. Just chant the name of Gauranga and dance without anxiety. There's nothing equal to the happiness that I am giving. That happiness is pure, eternal ecstasy-beyond all illusion!"

In this way, Nityananda Prabhu begged everyone to take pure ecstatic love. Still, unfortunate persons, influenced by previous sinful activities, did not even want it. But if such persons chant even once the names of Gauranga and Nitai, the effects of unlimited sinful activities are destroyed.

Listen, everyone, to one more confidential topic. The most suitable thing for the souls of Kali-yuga is this treasure of gauranga-lila. Gaurahari is the combined form of Radha and Krishna, who eternally enjoy pastimes in Vrindavana along with the sakhis. The truth of Radha and Krishna's eternal pastimes and the glories of Vraja-dhama are known by everyone through the scriptures. And the unlimited glories of Krishna's name and abode are known through the scriptures by people all over the universe. But still, actually obtaining krishna-prema is not at all common. Let us contemplate the reason why.

Herein lies the secret of secrets which the living entities bound by Maya cannot discern. One who does not attain love of God after worshiping Krishna birth after birth has certainly committed heaps of offenses. For only by chanting Krishna's name without offenses can one attain incessant krishna-prema.

Shri Chaitanya's incarnation, however, is most uncommon. By His mercy, a serious person, though filled with offenses, can quickly obtain love of God. When someone calls out the names of Nitai and Chaitanya, krishna-prema comes looking for him. Offenses do not hinder his progress, and he soon sheds tears of ecstasy out of pure love of God. By the mercy of Lord Chaitanya, all the offenses quickly flee away, the heart becomes pure, and love of God fully blossoms. Because people in Kali-yuga commit unlimited offenses, which are difficult to check, there can be no means of deliverance other than Gauranga's name. Therefore, in Kali-yuga, I see no alternative to Shri Gauranga. This is also the proclamation of the scriptures.

As Shri Gaurachandra appeared in Navadvipa, it is therefore the crest jewel of all holy places. Offenders are the object of punishment at other holy pilgrimage places, but in Navadvipa-dhama they are purified. The example is the two brothers Jagai and Madhai, who committed great offenses yet still received Nitai and Gaura. What to speak of other places, at Vrindavana the offenders are punished. But a person who has committed hundreds of offenses can easily receive the mercy of Nityananda Prabhu and overcome those offenses in Navadvipa-dhama. For this reason, sages endlessly praise Navadvipa of Gaura-mandala.

He who lives in Navadvipa-dhama is very fortunate, for he achieves attraction for Krishna. He who happens to go there becomes freed from all offenses. What one attains by travelling to all the holy places is attained just by remembering Navadvipa. In this way the scriptures sing. He who sees Navadvipa-dhama gets ecstatic love of Krishna birth after birth. Even one who goes to Navadvipa desiring to gain material comforts through pious activities will not take another birth. The shastras say that one who walks around Navadvipa attains the fruit of millions of ashvamedha-yajshas at every step. And one who lives in Navadvipa and chants mantras obtains the sound of Chaitanya as his mantra and easily gets free from maya. What yogis obtain after ten years at other tirthas is obtained in three nights at Navadvipa.

That liberation attained by Brahman realization at other holy places is obtained simply by bathing in the Ganges at Navadvipa. Thus, all types of liberation-salokya, sarupya, sarshti, samipya, and nirvana-can be obtained in Navadvipa without speculative practice. Falling at the feet of the pure devotees in Navadvipa, Bhukti and Mukti (personified material enjoyment and liberation) remain there as obedient servants. Not caring for their blessings, the devotees kick them away, but still they do not leave the devotee's feet. The fruits obtained by staying one hundred years at the seven holy cities can be attained by staying one night in Navadvipa-dhama.

In conclusion, Navadvipa is the topmost tirtha. Taking shelter of it, the living entities can cross over Kali-yuga. At this place, taraka, the name of Rama, which gives liberation, and paraka and paraka are mentioned in Cc. 3.3.257, the name of Krishna, which gives prema, always serve the residents of the dhama.

Aspiring for the shade of the lotus feet of Nitai and Jahnava,

Bhaktivinoda thus sings in bliss.

Jagannatha Gauranga dasa



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Eight aspects of Brahmacharya


Nityaananda!!!Gauranga!!! Hare Krishna!!! All glories to the Gurus!!!

I recieved a nice email from the BVKS sanga and thought I should share it here. I am just copying and pasting from my email.


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Eight aspects of brahmacarya, ( by Sridhar Swami, the Bhagavatam
commentator. Also quoted in Daksha Smriti).

(1) Smaranam - One should not think of the opposite sex. One should think of
Krishna and His service as given by the spiritual master. Memorize favorite
passages or verses from the Sastras.

(2) kirtanam - One should not talk of sex life. (Prajalpa) One should talk
of Krishna and discuss ones realizations with one�s friends, other
brahmacari�s. (Practice gravity).

(3) kelih- Don�t (play) or dally with the opposite sex, (even if it is your
service to deal with them, try to minimize it) . �Avyartha-kalatvam�- Rupa
Goswami says in NOD. Pure devotees don�t waste their time, they always are
cautious to make sure they are always engaged positively in K.C.

(4) preksanam- Don�t look lustfully at the opposite sex. Focus your eyes (or
remember) on your favorite deity form of the Lord.

(5) guhyabhasanam- Don�t talk intimately with the opposite sex in a secluded
place. Make strong friendships with other brahmacari�s, (or offer your
choice prayerful words to the deity instead).

(6) sankalpo- Don�t decide to engage in sexual intercourse. Make sure you
get proper counseling with a senior devotee(s) you have implicit trust in,
if you have fallen to this bad state of mind. (Thinking, feeling, willing).

(7) adhyavasayas- Don�t endeavor for sex life. Endeavor to improve or get
better devotees association then you have now.

(8) ca kriyanirvrttir - Don�t engage in sex life. Doing it has more trouble
in store for you (health, and otherwise) then you think. Control the senses,
mind, activities by devotional service.

nirvrttir eva ca - One executes real brahmacarya when all these activities
come to a halt. (Sridhara 6.1.12).

Etan maithunyam astangam pravadanti manisinah vikarita brahmacaryam eda
astanam laksanam iti

Discussions of these 8 points in further detail with evidences.

(1) Smaranam - One should not think of the opposite sex. One should think of
Krishna and His service as given by the spiritual master. Memorize favourate
passages or verses from the Sastras.

(SB. 7.15.36 Purport) �In our Krsna consciousness movement it is advised,
therefore, that the sannyasis and brahmacaris keep strictly aloof from the
association of women so that there will be no chance of their falling down
again as victims of lusty desires.�

(2) kirtanam - One should not talk of sex life. (Prajalpa) One should talk
of Krishna and discuss ones realizations with one�s friends, other
brahmacari�s. (Practice gravity, chant Japa nicely).

�Japa means tapa, tapasya. And that is drdha-vrata. Tapasa brahmacaryena.
Tapasya begins with brahmacarya. There is no tapasya, there is no
brahmacarya, there is no drdha-vrata,� (Rm. Conv. Jan 31, 1977)

�So this is the process. Tapasa brahmacaryena. Brahmacarya is very, very
essential. And that is, when one becomes detestful to sex life, that is the
beginning of spiritual life. That is the beginning of spiritual life.� (Lect
CC Adi 1.11, April 4,�75) (see determination)

(SB.1.5.26) tatranvaham krsna-kathah pragayatam anugrahenasrnavam manoharah
tah sraddhaya me �nupadam visrnvatah priyasravasy anga mamabhavad rucih

O Vyasadeva, in that association and by the mercy of those great Vedantists,
I could hear 0them describe the attractive activities of Lord Krsna And thus
listening attentively, my taste for hearing of the Personality of Godhead
increased at every step.

Lord Sri Krsna, the Absolute Personality of Godhead, is attractive not only
in His personal features, but also in His transcendental activities. It is
so because the Absolute is absolute by His name, fame, form, pastimes,
entourage, paraphernalia, etc. The Lord descends on this material world out
of His causeless mercy and displays His various transcendental pastimes as a
human being so that human beings attracted towards Him become able to go
back to Godhead. Men are naturally apt to hear histories and narrations of
various personalities performing mundane activities, without knowing that by
such association one simply wastes valuable time and also becomes addicted
to the three qualities of mundane nature. Instead of wasting time, one can
get spiritual success by turning his attention to the transcendental
pastimes of the Lord. By hearing the narration of the pastimes of the Lord,
one contacts directly the Personality of Godhead, and, as explained before,
by hearing about the Personality of Godhead, from within, all accumulated
sins of the mundane creature are cleared. Thus being cleared of all sins,
the hearer gradually becomes liberated from mundane association and becomes
attracted to the features of the Lord. Narada Muni has just explained this
by his personal experience. The whole idea is that simply by hearing about
the Lord�s pastimes one can become one of the associates of the Lord. Narada
Muni has eternal life, unlimited knowledge and unfathomed bliss, and he can
travel all over the material and spiritual worlds without restriction. One
can attain to the highest perfection of life simply by attentive hearing of
the transcendental pastimes of the Lord from the right sources, as Sri
Narada heard them from the pure devotees (bhakti-vedantas) in his previous
life. This process of hearing in the association of the devotees is
especially recommended in this age of quarrel (Kali).

(3) kelih- Don�t (play) or dally with the opposite sex, (even if it is your
service to deal with them, try to minimize it) . �Avyartha-kalatvam�- Rupa
Goswami says in NOD. Pure devotees don�t waste their time, they always are
cautious to make sure they are always engaged positively in K.C.

(From Lecture April 30 1972 Tokyo)

�If one is absent-minded, he cannot work nicely because mind is absent or
not in order. Therefore our method of controlling the senses is to engage
the senses in the service of the Lord. The first engagement should be that
mind should be always absorbed in thoughts of Krsna. Always engaged. These
boys, they are always engaged. Just like in offering arcana to the Deities
from early morning up to ten o�clock at night, and then they go to rest.
Again rise early in the morning. So somebody is engaged n cleansing the
temple, somebody is engaged in dressing the Deity, somebody is engaged in
cooking for the Deity, somebody is engaged going in Tokyo city for
distributing literature, somebody is performing kirtana here, somebody is
reading our various books. In this way we have got twenty-five hours
engagement instead of twenty-four hours. So mind cannot go outside Krsna.
That is called Krsna conscious. We don�t allow the mind go out of Krsna�s
service. And this is sannyasa.�

(4) preksanam- Don�t look lustfully at the opposite sex. Focus your eyes (or
remember) on your favorite deity form of the Lord. (See SB. 6.18.41-42)

(SB. 6.18.41-42) sarat-padmotsavam vaktram vacas ca sravanamrtam

hrdayam ksura-dharabham strinam ko veda cestitam

A woman�s face is as attractive and beautiful as a blossoming lotus flower
during autumn. Her words are very sweet, and they give pleasure to the ear,
but if we study a woman�s heart, we can understand it to be extremely sharp,
like the blade of a razor. In these circumstances, who could understand the
dealings of a woman?

Woman is now depicted very well from the materialistic point of view by
Kasyapa Muni. Women are generally known as the fair sex, and especially in
youth, at the age of sixteen or seventeen, women are very attractive to men.
Therefore a woman�s face is compared to a blooming lotus flower in autumn.
Just as a lotus is extremely beautiful in autumn, a woman at the threshold
of youthful beauty is extremely attractive. In Sanskrit a woman�s voice is
called nari-svara because women generally sing and their singing is very
attractive. At the present moment, cinema artists, especially female
singers, are especially welcome. Some of them earn fabulous amounts of money
simply by singing. Therefore, as taught by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, a
woman�s singing is dangerous because it can make a sannyasi fall a victim to
the woman. Sannyasa means giving up the company of women, but if a sannyasi
hears the voice of a woman and sees her beautiful face, he certainly becomes
attracted and is sure to fall down. There have been many examples. Even the
great sage Visvamitra fell a victim to Menaka. Therefore a person desiring
to advance in spiritual consciousness must be especially careful not to see
a woman�s face or hear a woman�s voice. To see a woman�s face and appreciate
its beauty or to hear a woman�s voice and appreciate her singing as very
nice is a subtle falldown for a brahmacari or sannyasi. Thus the description
of a woman�s features by Kasyapa Muni is very instructive.

When a woman�s bodily features are attractive, when her face is beautiful
and when her voice is sweet, she is naturally a trap for a man. The sastras
advise that when such a woman comes to serve a man, she should be considered
to be like a dark well covered by grass. In the fields there are many such
wells, and a man who does not know about them drops through the grass and
falls down. Thus there are many such instructions. Since the attraction of
the material world is based on attraction for women, Kasyapa Muni thought,
�Under the circumstances, who can understand the heart of a woman?� Canakya
Pandita has also advised, visvaso naiva kartavyah strisu raja-kulesu ca:
�There are two persons one should not trust-a politician and a woman.�
These, of course, are authoritative sastric injunctions, and we should
therefore be very careful in our dealings with women.

Sometimes our Krsna consciousness movement is criticized for mingling men
and women, but Krsna consciousness is meant for anyone. Whether one is a man
or woman does not matter. Lord Krsna personally says, striyo vaisyas tatha
sudras te �pi yanti param gatim: whether one is a woman, sudra or vaisya,
not to speak of being a brahmana or ksatriya, everyone is fit to return
home, back to Godhead, if he strictly follows the instructions of the
spiritual master and sastra. We therefore request all the members of the
Krsna consciousness movement-both men and women-not to be attracted by
bodily features but only to be attracted by Krsna. Then everything will be
all right. Otherwise there will be danger.

Here is a practical solution to the problem of agitation in the presence of
so many women in Kali Yuga. Avoid unnecessary association, but be practical.
Remember! The sense objects are not at fault. It�s how one understands the
purpose of the various sense objects that creates ones difficulties.

All creatures and all things must be offered for Krishna�s enjoyment. If one
understands this always, then one can be pacified despite provocation. But
disturbance or not, we must carry on our preaching duties. Get association,
and counseling. Endeavor for rectifying your strength. Then after regaining
strength-go out to preach again. This time more cautious then before you had
the initial weakness.

(SP let. Ekayani 12/3/72)

�Who has introduced these things, that women cannot have chanting japa in
the temple, they cannot perform the arati and so many things? If they become
agitated, then let the brahmacaris go to the forest, I have never introduced
these things. The brahmacaris cannot remain in the presence of women in the
temple, then they may go to the forest, not remaining in New York City,
because in New York there are so many women, so how they can avoid seeing?
Best thing is to go to the forest for not seeing any women, if they become
so easily agitated, but then no one will either see them and how our
preaching work will go on?�.. It is not possible.�

Hoping this will meet you in good health.

Your ever well-wisher, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami cc: Bali Mardan Goswami

(5) guhyabhasanam- Don�t talk intimately with the opposite sex in a secluded
place. Make strong friendships with other brahmacari�s, (or offer your
choice prayerful words to the deity instead).

(SB. 11.17.33) strinam niriksana-sparsa-samlapa-ksvelanadikam

pranino mithuni-bhutan agrhastho �gratas tyajet

Those who are not married-sannyasis, vanaprasthas and brahmacaris-should
never associate with women by glancing, touching, conversing, joking or
sporting. Neither should they ever associate with any living entity engaged
in sexual activities.

Praninah indicates all living entities, whether birds, bees or human beings.
Among most species of life, sexual intercourse is preceded by diverse mating
rituals. In human society, all types of entertainment (books, music, films)
and all places of amusement (restaurants, shopping centers, resorts) are
designed to stimulate the sexual urge and create an aura of �romance.� One
who is not married-a sannyasi, brahmacari or vanaprastha-should rigidly
avoid anything related to sex and of course should never see any living
entity, whether bird, insect or human, engaging in the various phases of
sexual intercourse. When a man jokes with a woman, an intimate,
sexually-charged atmosphere is immediately created, and this should also be
avoided for those aspiring to practice celibacy. Even a householder who
becomes attached to such activities will also fall down into the darkness of
ignorance.

(6) sankalpo- The determination to engage in sexual intercourse. Don�t
contemplate to engage in sexual intercourse. Be determined to make sure you
get proper counseling with a senior devotee(s) you have implicit trust in,
if you have fallen to this bad state of mind. (Thinking, feeling, willing).

(SB. 7.15.22)

asankalpaj jayet kamam krodham kama-vivarjanat

arthanartheksaya lobham bhayam tattvavamarsanat

By making plans with determination, one should give up lusty desires for
sense gratification. Similarly, by giving up envy one should conquer anger,
by discussing the disadvantages of accumulating wealth one should give up
greed, and by discussing the truth one should give up fear.

Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura has suggested how one can conquer lusty
desires for sense gratification. One cannot give up thinking of women, for
thinking in this way is natural; even while walking on the street, one will
see so many women. However, if one is determined not to live with a woman,
even while seeing a woman he will not become lusty. If one is determined not
to have sex, he can automatically conquer lusty desires. The example given
in this regard is that even if one is hungry, if on a particular day he is
determined to observe fasting, he can naturally conquer the disturbances of
hunger and thirst. If one is determined not to be envious of anyone, he can
naturally conquer anger. Similarly, one can give up the desire to accumulate
wealth simply by considering how difficult it is to protect the money in
one�s possession. If one keeps a large amount of cash with him, he is always
anxious about keeping it properly. Thus if one discusses the disadvantages
of accumulating wealth, he can naturally give up business without
difficulty.

If one doesn�t get help to stop this contemplation at an early stage, then
eventually it goes from thinking, to feeling. At this point, devoid of mind
and sense control, the living entity loses all reasoning, and is unable to
hear the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the form of sastras.

Such a person usually ends up (at best, through counseling) getting married,
or (at worse) becomes a debauchee-falling into illicit life. Sometimes he
tries to satisfy this craving through artificial means. (See SB 2.6.20
Purport)

(SB 6.1.62) stambhayann atmanatmanam yavat sattvam yatha-srutam

na sasaka samadhatum mano madana-vepitam

As far as possible he patiently tried to remember the instructions of the
sastras not even to see a woman. With the help of this knowledge and his
intellect, he tried to control his lusty desires, but because of the force
of Cupid within his heart, he failed to control his mind�.

�Regarding your proposed marriage, if you think it is nice then you have all
my blessings upon you both. If you do not think you can remain brahmacari,
then it is better to remain in Krsna Consciousness as householder and not
pretend to brahmacarya artificially. From your description the girl seems
very qualified and sincere, so you continue to train her in our Krsna
Conscious way of life and she will work together with you as your helpmeet
in Krsna�s service.� (to Jananivas Sept. 29,�70)

Incidentally, Jananivasa Prabhu never got married. Instead since 1971 he has
dedicated his life to the worship of Sri Sri Radha-Madhava in Mayapur, thus
setting a wonderful example of dedication in Deity worship for all
brahmacari�s to follow.

(7) adhyavasayas- To endeavor for sex life. Don�t endeavor for sex life.

Endeavor to improve or get better devotees association then you have now.

Even if austerity and brahmacarya are painful because we want to be
unrestricted, as soon as we are regulated, what appeared to be painful is in
practice not painful.

There are two classes of men-those who are sober (dhira) and those who are
extravagant (adhira). When one, in spite of provocation or in spite of the
presence of a source of mental agitation, can remain steady in his position,
he is called dhira. An example of a dhira is given by Kalidasa Pandita, a
great Sanskrit poet who wrote a book called Kumara-sambhava, wherein he has
given an example concerning Lord Siva. It appears that when the demigods
were fighting the demons and were being defeated, they decided that they
could be saved by a commander-in-chief born from the semina of Lord Siva.
Lord Siva, however, was in meditation, and to acquire the needed semina was
very difficult. They therefore sent Parvati, a young girl, who appeared
before Lord Siva and worshiped his genitals. Although this young girl sat
before Lord Siva and touched his genitals, Lord Siva was steady in
meditation. Kalidasa says, �Here is an example of a dhira, for despite a
young girl�s touching his genitals, he was undisturbed.�

Similarly, someone sent a young prostitute to disturb Haridasa Thakura, and
upon hearing her appeals for intercourse, Haridasa Thakura said, �Yes, your
proposal is very nice. please sit down and let me finish my chanting, and
then we shall enjoy.� Morning came and the prostitute became impatient, but
Haridasa Thakura replied, �I�m very sorry. I could not finish my chanting.
Come tonight again.� The prostitute came for three nights, and on the third
night she fell down at his feet, confessed her intentions, and pleaded with
him, �I was induced to perform this act by a man who is your enemy. Kindly
excuse me.� Haridasa Thakura then replied, �I know all about that, but I
allowed you to come here for three days so that you could be converted and
become a devotee. Now take these chanting beads, and go on chanting. I am
leaving this place.� Here is another example of a dhira who has control of
his body (deha), words (vac), and intelligence (buddhi). One�s body, words
and intelligence should be controlled by one who is dhira and who actually
knows the principles of religion.

(8) ca kriyanirvrttir - Don�t engage in sex life. Doing it has more trouble
in store for you (health, and otherwise) then you think. Control the senses,
mind, activities by devotional service.

(Lect SB 6.1.21-22) �Of course, one who thinks that family life is too big a
responsibility can forgo it and thus avoid a lot of trouble. Family
responsibility is very great; therefore if a man feels he cannot accept the
responsibility, he should remain a brahmacari, a celibate student. A person
who practices the science of brahmacarya under the care of a spiritual
master automatically becomes seventy-five percent free from material
entanglement.�

(From Lecture April 30 1972 Tokyo)

�At the present moment, in the materialistic concept of life, everyone is
servant of the senses. Everyone acts by the dictation of the senses;
therefore they can be called, in other words, as godasa, servant of the
senses. Instead of becoming servant of the senses, one has to become the
master of the senses. That is called gosvami, master of the senses. So how
to become master of the senses? Senses are very strong. How one can become
master? The simple method is when one engages the senses in the service of
the Supreme Lord, it is automatically controlled.�

Etan maithunyam astangam pravadanti manisinah

vikarita brahmacaryam eda astanam laksanam iti

These eight kinds of enjoyments are eight kinds of breaks in the current of
Akhanda brahmacari life. We must avoid these eight interruptions with great
care, hard work and diligent self-introspection (always analyzing at all
times to observe your true motivations). Only he who is truly free from
these eight breaks can be technically called a brahmacari.

Srila Prabhupada has also acknowledged that in Kali Yuga it may be difficult
to strictly follow all the details in avoiding these eight breaks in
brahmacari life, but Krsna conscious life following the regulative
principles will help the devotee to prevail over the occaisional attack by
maya.

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--y.s. truthseeker



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Re: Euthanize of pet question


Nityananda, Gauranga, Hare Krishna.
Dear lowerthanarat,
Thank you for your advice and information.

What you have said is certainly correct and real. However, I was not aware of all that, even at my age, until a few years a go and I have had that dog as part of my life long before I ever got into Krishna Consciousness or knew about Gauranga or being a Vaishnava. It is very difficult to make changes and to just become detached from someone , even a pet, with whom you have shared life with for so long. As one put it, they do have feelings and can be loving as people are. At this old age of the dog, it would be cruelty, in my opinion, to change what has been a regular way of life for him for all his years.

The dog is heavy because he has problems walking and can not exercise. I have cut his intake of food a lot but he just can not walk well.

My desire is to become detached from him, and that is why I am also praying that the Lord take care of this situation so I can be changing my ways. This attachment is a primary reason I do not feel qualified to even seriously consider initiation and hopefully I can do that prior to leaving my body. But, that is up to how things go.

I have no idea how to minimize my attachment to him and still take care of his needs so I am willing to take whatever karma comes from my taking care of him....I just do not want to ever euthanize hm and cause him to live as a dog again.  My heart and mind desire to give totally to Guru and Gauranga but this obstacle is there and I can not take it away for now.

Thank you again for you advice and I will continue to consider it and do what I am able to.
Ron



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