(GERMAN) 7. Nityananda Gauranga Naam Cintamani (9)

(41) kali yuga mein sadhu sanga, ho gaya dushita, dharmadhvaji prabalya, sanga nahi ucita.

�Im Kalizeitalter wurde sogar der entscheidenste Teil des hingebungsvollen Dienstes, welcher die Gemeinschaft mit Gottgeweihten (Sadhu Sanga) ist, verunreinigt, abgeschw�cht und ung�nstig beeinflusst durch das verbreitete Vorhandensein von heuchlerischen und betr�gerischen Menschen im Gewand eines Gottgeweihten.�

(42) nitai gauranga naam, sadhu guru vaishnava, kali yuga mein saba kucha naam hi bandhava.

�Also gibt es keine Hoffnung im Zeitalter des Kali, weil es kaum einwandfreie Gemeinschaft mit Gottgeweihten gibt? Doch, sicher gibt es Hoffnung, weil die grossherzigsten, vergehensfreien heiligen Namen von Nityananda und Gauranga immer f�r jedermann zug�nglich sind, und zu spirituellen Meistern, vertraulichen Freunden, G�nnern, reinen Gottgeweihten und zur ausschliesslichen Zuflucht f�r die vergehensvollen und bedingten Seelen geworden sind.�

(43) nitai gauranga naam, haya mukhya patha, aparadha vimukta jiva paya prema dhana.

�Das wichtigste Mittel um den h�chsten Reichtum der reinen Gottesliebe zu erlangen, ist f�r die Seelen im Kalizeitalter das Chanten der heiligen Namen von Nityananda, Gauranga und Hare Krischna, welches sogar von den vergehensvollsten und heruntergekommensten Seelen vergehensfrei ausge�bt werden kann.�

(44) nitai gauranga naam cintamani cinmaya, jo gauranga vo hi naam anadi advaya.

�Die transzendentalen, wunscherf�llenden Steine der Weisen, die heiligen Namen von Nityananda und Gauranga, sind h�chst bewusst, lebendig und wissend. Die ewige und nicht-duale Wahrheit des heiligen Namens von Gauranga ist nichts anderes als Gauranga selbst.�

(45) Chaitanya vigraha naam nitya mukta tattva, naam nami bhinna nahi nitya suddha sattva.

�Die heiligen Namen von Nityananda und Gauranga sind die �usserst empfindungsf�higen Personifizierungen der spirituellen Wahrheit, sind ewig befreit und befinden sich in reiner Tugend, unbefleckt von materiellen Verunreinigungen. Deshalb sind diese heiligen Namen und Sri Sri Nityananda-Gauranga selbst voneinander �berhaupt nicht verschieden.�

(46) gaura naam akarshaye sarva visvagata jana, vo hi nitya dharmagata sarvopari dhana.

�Die heiligen Namen von Nityananda und Gauranga ziehen alle Lebewesen der Sch�pfung an, weil Sie die einzige ewige und h�chste Religion, das beste Yoga und der gr�sste Schatz der Sch�pfung sind.�

(47) nityananda gauranga naam sarvopari, aparadha vinasha haya, atishaya bhari.

�Die heiligen Namen von Nityananda und Gauranga sind in  der Vergangenheit, in der Gegenwart und in der Zukunft die h�chsten heiligen Namen der Sch�pfung, weil selbst die abscheulichsten, unwiderruflichen und unverzeihlichen Vergehen und S�nden vollst�ndig durch das Chanten dieser heiligen Namen vernichtet werden.�

(48) artha dhana moksha kami ko kare pradana, suddha bhakta ko gaura naam prema dana.

�Die heiligen Namen von Nityananda und Gauranga gew�hren die Fr�chte der Religiosit�t, des Reichtums, der Sinnenbefriedigung und der Befreiung den materialistisch gesinnten Chantern. Den reinen Gottgeweihten hingegen gew�hren sie reine Liebe zu Krischna, das h�chste Ziel aller Bem�hungen.�

(49) gaura vastu haya cara dharma paricita, naam rupa guna lila anadi vihita.

�Die h�chste absolute Wahrheit, Gauranga Mahaprabhu, hat vier ewige Merkmale. Diese sind der heilige Name, die heilige Form, die heiligen Eigenschaften und die g�ttlichen Spiele, welche den Herrn Seinen Geweihten offenbaren.�

(50) sandhini shakti se caro ka paricaya, nitya siddha rupa me naam hai cinmaya.

�Der heilige Name, die heilige Form, die heiligen Eigenschaften und Spiele sind unmittelbare Manifestationen der ewigen spirituellen Macht (Sandhini) von Gauranga Krischna. Deshalb sind sie ewiglich vollkommen und sie manifestieren sich aus dem transzendentalen heiligen Namen des Herrn, welcher der Anfang aller Erkenntnis ist.�

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Re: Lord's simultaneous Pastimes in the material and spiritual world

Nityananda!! Gauranga!! Hare Krishna!! Dear K, The Pastimes of Lord Gauranga Krishna in different universes may differ from other universes slightly or even quite considerably and They are never completely the same. How can the unlimited Lord have a limited set of pastimes? He can never be monotonous   The Garga Samhita described some of the Lord's pastimes in another Kalpa (day of Brahma) and even those are different from the present Kalpa pastimes, then what to speak of the great variegatedness in the pastimes in different universes and also in Goloka. Thank you.

Daaso'smi, BR Sadhu Swami Gaurangapada.

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Re: Lord's simultaneous Pastimes in the material and spiritual world

Dear Matus, Nityananda!! Gauranga!! Hare Krishna!! First thing, the Lord may not wait for all His pastimes to get over in one material universe to begin His pastimes in another universe. He may be performing pastimes simultaneously in numerous universes as well simultaneously in the spiritual world. For this purpose, not only He but His pure Associates, Abodes and Paraphernalia also expand in numerous universes while still being present in the spiritual world.

Daaso'smi, BR Sadhu Swami Gaurangapada.

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Re: Lord's simultaneous Pastimes in the material and spiritual world

Dear Srinath! Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Thank you for your reply.
Please, let me disagree with you in some points:

1) I am not a prabhu. At least not in this life

2) "We can't define the spiritual world as a place existing in some location defined by space and time. It is not different from the Lord. It is everywhere."

In some point you are right - Spiritual world is fully trancendental. But Srimad Bhagavatam gives us it's direct location - it is above material world. And it is even more high then Vaikuntha. Spiritual world can not be compared with material world. This is truth - Lord is present in each and every creature as a paramatma, but the place where we are living is just a reflection of Spiritual world. As Srila Prabhupada told, our world is like a moon, reflecting in a lake - looks the same, but its not real moon. Same is what you see around you - it is just illusory energy of Lord, but not Lord Himself. So, the place where we are living, can not be even compared to the Spiritual world - it is just illusory energy of Lord.

3) "Actually the pastimes the Lord showed on earth are exactly the same in the spiritual world."

Here also I must humbly disagree. In scriptures is clearly told, that in Spiritual world Lord is always 16 years old. In this case he can not preform his childhood pastimes. Pastimes of Lord in Spiritual world are pastimes with Radha and Gopis... Material world is created for 2 main reasons: 1)  Lord wants to entertain (like He did with different demons) and 2) He wants us, fallen souls put on the right path. Like He did by telling Bhagavat Gita, or as He did introducing Ahimsa as Buddha, or like He tought us lesson of dharma as Raam and in the same time He shows His glories to us, so that we have more devotion. In Goloka he doesn't need to be warrior or a teacher. For that reason there is place, where we all are living now i.e. material world.

4) "As for the other thing, when I say pastimes, you must be thinking that what you are reading within a few hundred pages of a book is all there is being monotonically repeated..."

There can be planet of ants, and He will also incarnate Himself there. We may not say, that He incarnates or shows Himself in some sequence. There is no sequence. It's continuous and has no limitations.

My question was about development of universes - if they develop equally - is it so, that pastimes in these universes are also equal to ours? Its known, that in each Universe there will be Garbhodakasayi Vishnu and Brahma... If creation of particular universe starts same way as in other universes and destruction comes in the same time for all universes (Narayana inhales)... then would that mean, that pastimes of Lord are also the same? (millions and billions of pastimes)

5) "What we read with material eyes are just empty words"

I must comment, that these words are words of Lord Himself and how He is explaining to us all the creation.   We can not drawn into personal experiences without gaining some theoretical knowledge of what our experience. This way our mind can easy mislead us.

I hope, i have explained my thoughts clear... Usually i am not very good in that )
Always ys

K.

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Svarupa Shakti

Nityaananda Gauranga
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!

Hare Krsna Maharaj
Please accept my humble obeisances at the dust of your lotus feet.

Maharaj, I truly appreciate your guidance. I request you to please enlighten me on this subject matter.

Srila Prabhupada says in Nectar of Devotion that it is very difficult to understand Krsna and the transactions of the Spiritual world. One must be in touch with Krsna's pleasure potency to understand His inconceivable nature. It is also mentioned that from one of Krsna's intimate associates this Svarupa shakti descends in the heart of a bhava bhakta.

So my question is that as a sadhaka, are we also in touch with this svarupa shakti. What is this bliss we experience while chanting the holy names of the Lord. Is it just the bliss of being in goodness (ananda) that a sadhaka experiences while chanting. Dosent he get a reciprocation from the Guru parampara or the nitya siddhas.

Thank you Maharaj for all your time and efforts

Jai Sri Radhe!!

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