Re: Diary of chanting aspirant

Dear Bhakta Igor,

Nityananda ! Gauranga ! Hare Krishna !

I would like to share a chat I had with Swami Gaurangapada in which the same topic is being discussed. The reason I am keen to share this is because I want the whole world to realize the mercy they will recieve by chanting Nityananda, Gauranga and the Hare Krishna mahamantra together. Please note I have deleted some parts in between to maintain my privacy.

NGN= Nityaananda Gauraanga Naam
HKMM= Hare Krishna Mahamantra

me: Gurudev, I just saw your video how to deal with distress, in that you said that the Lord gives distress so that we can come closer to Him, but in our chat last time you said that this is only in Krishna tattva whereas in Nitaai Tattva there is no distress
8:14 PM swami@nitaai.com: In the material world, one cannot escape from distress fully
  dukhalayam
8:15 PM me: yes, but in Krishna book it is said that if a person if very dear to Him then He puts Him in distress and takes away everything from Him and seperates him from his family
  you mean even Lord Nitaai work likes this ?
swami@nitaai.com: No
  I mean no one can escape old age, disease and death
8:16 PM so some distress will come
me: yes, but in your video you said that to test the person the Lord will put him in distress so that his real test begins
8:17 PM I mean how does Lord Nitaai test a person ?
swami@nitaai.com: Lord NItaai does not
  He needs only faith
  He gives love
  He does not test
me: ohh, so in your video you were talking about Krishna tattva ?
swami@nitaai.com: yes Mihir
swami@nitaai.com: Nitaai normally does not test, but He is the independent Lord, He can also test
me: but Gurudev, your followers are in Nitaai tatva then why did you preach about Krishna tattva ?
  all your followers chant NGN
8:27 PM If we chant NGN and HKMM still we fall under Nitaai Tattva then why did you preach about Krishna tattva (devotees who chant only HKMM )
swami@nitaai.com: Because They are inseparable
me:I mean we chant NGN and HKMM together still we fall under Nitaai Tattva then why did you preach about Krishna tattva devotees who chant only HKMM
swami@nitaai.com: One cannot preach only parts of our philosophy
  One has to preach about all the Tattva
me: if I chant 16 of HKMM and take initiation then will I fall under Krishna Tattva ?
8:29 PM swami@nitaai.com: Besides Nitaai can follow the standards of Krishna Tatva anytime He wants so NGN devotees should be ready for it
me: yes, I can follow any tests except this same test in the future
  follow = face
8:30 PM swami@nitaai.com: Thank you Mihir
  I have to go now.
   swami@nitaai.com: Since you are chanting NGN you will always be under Nitaai Tattva
even when you chant 16 rounds of HKMM

Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna!

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Re: bhaktatommy's blog

Nityaananda Gauraanga Hare Krishna!

Dear Tommy,

This blog is really inspiring. Thank you so much!

Dasadaaso'smi,

Venkat

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Re: Diary of chanting aspirant

Dear Bhakta Igor,

Nityaananda ! Gauraanga ! Hare Krishna !

I will always respect you as an advanced devotee because your realizations and all your God brothers' realizations are the real source of my enthusiasm without which I would have certainly fallen down.

Bhakta Igor wrote : Also when devotee is on very beginning stages of devotion like myself, Lord may help him by taking comfort, material possessions etc. and show real face of this material world to devotee so that all daubhts or seeds for material enjoyment are becoming destroyed in core of hearth. If you are fortunate, Lord will take away everything material, but He will give pure devotion.

I read this in the Krishna book. However I heard that only devotees under Krishna Tattva face this situation as they find it difficult to surrender due to offenses. For devotees under Nitaai Tattva, Lord Nitaai does not take away their possessions nor does He give them any distress rather He directly gives them love of God thus they automatically surrender to Lord Gaurahari and their Lordships Shri Shri Radha Krishna.

I hope you will throw more light on this also.

ys,
Mihir.

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Re: Diary of chanting aspirant

Nityaananda Gauraanga Hare Krishna!

Dear Igor prabhu,

What a wonderful explanantion! This is so nice. Thank you so much! :-) Thank you Mihir for raising this topic.

Always eager to have your association,

A great sinner,

Dasadaaso'smi,

Venkat

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Re: New Year Obeisances!

Respected Guruji and all devotees!

      Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare  Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare! Jaya Guru Parampara! Please accept my humble obeisances!

      All glories to the Supremely merciful Lords Nityananda Gauranga! All Glories to the divinely sweet Radha Krishna! To the servants of the Lord and their servants and their servants and their servants, all glories! Please accept my repeated dandavats to these servants and the dust particles at their lotus feet.

      I am sorry for joining in late for the New Year. I hope you will all forgive me. Over the last year I have had various experiences along the path of devotion from the very rock bottom and condemnable to some very beautiful ones all possible by your mercy. I thank you for letting me stay in your association despite all my failings and all the mistakes I have committed.

     In a year's span there have been many occasions where I may have offended all of you by words, or by thoughts, or by my actions. I once again beg forgiveness for all these aparadhas and pray that you will be merciful to keep showering your mercy as always because without your shelter, there is no way, no way for such rascal fools and pathetic idiots like me.

     I pray that I become the servant of your glorious servants and remain in that position in true humility and gratitude always. My prayers are that the glories of Nityananda Gauranga naama along with the Hare Krishna maha mantra along with all their literatures headed by Sri Chaitanya Bhagavata are spread all over the world more and more. I certainly pray for all those souls who have not yet realised the treasure that is always with them and that they should be drowned in the flood of preaching that the Lord has unleashed.

     I pray that the taste of chanting the pure spiritual names of Nityananda! Gauranga! and Hare Krishna! increase more and more always.

     I have always asked many things from all of you, but now my conscience cannot sit still and take your services. I have a desire to give my service to you in whatever capacity I can. But I realise I am so fallen that I am dependent on your grace to even give me the ability to serve you. Therefore I pray that I be able to serve you using all my resources with a completely favourable attitude this year and the years beyond eternally.

      So I pray that I start the New Year on a devotional note and let it grow, "anandaambudhi vardhanam pratipadam" with every step. I pray that I lose my selfishness and give and serve you all unconditionally. I hope that whatever insignificant service I can do will be of some use to you and the Lord. Although you are all my seniors, I pray that it must be so for all of you too.

      My last prayer is that even if the whole world and universe has chosen to turn against me for making the choice to serve you, even if no one accepts the principles of devotion, not even I am thrown into the darkest regions of hell, never under any circumstances should I even feel the thought to leave your association and the chanting of Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! even involuntarily in my dreams.

I always pray that I have these prayers ringing in my heart at all times!

      All glories to the assembled devotees!
      All glories to this sacred sanga!
      All glories to our spiritual master Swami Gaurangapada and his exalted servants!
      All glories to the guru parampara!
      All glories to all devotees known and unknown!
      All glories to our devotional literatures!
      All glories to the Supreme Lords Nityananda Gauranga and Radha Krishna!

      May the ocean of divine love expand more and more and drown us all!

Most worthless and wretched aspirant to become the servant of the servants,

Srinath

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!

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Re: New Year Obeisances!

Nityananda, Gauranga, Hare Krsna!

Please accept my humble obeisances,

Dear Venkat,

You have very beautifully articulated a deep message.  I think some of us here feel similarly but like myself unable to so nicely Glorify Swami Gaurangapada and his mission.  In this regard I am transcendentally envious and I thank you.  I hope Krsna may inspire all to Glorify Swami Gaurangapada as he is most merciful.

Your servant,
bhaktatommy

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Re: Diary of chanting aspirant

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

Dear Mihir,
I am not advanced, I am real fool. That is true. Only because I have small faith in Swami Gaurangapada and because he still is so merciful toward me I am still trying to become devotee.

I do not know answer to your question. I may try to answer according to what I had read from Gurudevas writings and according to books of previous acharyas.

There are three kind of perfect, most highest jivas - first, devotees who are engaged in krsna lila - with their spiritual body eternaly engaged in vrindavana rasa in spiritual world. Such perfection is result of pure chanting of Krsna Naam, Hari Naam. In this age of Kali, it is almost imposable for  us to attain that stage of pure chanting if we chant solely Krsna Naam because we are making aparadhas.

Also there are gaura lila nitya siddhas and also gaura lila sadhana siddhas - with their spiritual body eternaly in Gaura lila. This perfection is attainable by chanting Gaura and Nitaai Naam. There is no doubt about that.

But, there is also third kind of most perfect souls - with two spiritual bodies both in krsna and gaura lila. Such perfection is attainable by chanting both nitaai and gaura naam and hari naam.

Love in separation is more intense then in union. Whole Gaura lila is example of this. Sometimes, in order to intensify devotees desire to attain Him, and also to teach non devotees, Lord may put His devotee in hard position. Actually that is Lord's mercy because then devotee is completely and fully surrender to Him. We also may see that there are many examples of separation also in Gaura lila. When Nityananda Prabhu left Ekachakra, His parents were in agony. Lord Gauracandra took sanyasa and His wife left in separation from Him constantly chanting His Name.  Lord Gauranga Himself  manifested ultimate separation feelings in Puri, feeling separated from His Lord Krsna. So both, union and separation in spiritual realm are two sides of same coin - pure love and have nothing with material distress.

Also when devotee is on very beginning stages of devotion like myself, Lord may help him by taking comfort, material possessions etc. and show real face of this material world to devotee so that all daubhts or seeds for material enjoyment are becoming destroyed in core of hearth. If you are fortunate, Lord will take away everything material, but He will give pure devotion. That is His Name - Hari - He who takes away. And Lord Chaitanya is Gaurahari.

We also must understand that Lord Gauranga gave us highest philosophy - acintya bheda abheda tattva. He is Krsna but He is in role of devotee. Nitaai and Gaura Naam are at the same moment identical with Krsna Naam, but also different from Krsna Naam, because Mantrarajas do not accept our ofencess.

We also may see that our great acharyas gave us example of this. Srilla Narotama das Thakura is crying

ha ha prabhu nityananda premananda sukhi
krpabolokana koro ami boro dukhi

"My dear Lord Nityananda, You are always joyful in spiritual bliss. Since You always appear very happy, I have come to You because I am most unhappy. If You kindly put Your glance over me, I may also become happy."

Also our great Acharya Srilla Bhaktivinoda Thakur is explaining mercy of Nitaai

kobe nityananda, more kori' doya,
charaibe mora visayera maya
diya more nija-caranera chaya,
namera hatete dibe adhikar
kabe ha'be bolo se-dina amar

When will Nityananda Prabhu be merciful to me and deliver me from the enchantment [maya] of the sense objects? When will he give me the shade of his lotus feet and the right to enter the market place [hama-hatta] of the Holy Name? When, O when, will that day be mine?

I am hoping that I gave you some hints. Dear Gurudeva, please correct if I gave wrong explanations.

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

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Re: Diary of chanting aspirant

Dear Bhakta Igor,

Nityananda ! Gauranga ! Hare Krishna !

Since I have read a lot of your realizations I very well know that you are very very advanced compared to me. However I would like to share something that I have heard.

Bhakta Igor wrote :  I understand that when devotee is put in hard situation it is Lord's mercy because Lord want pure devotion and surrender from devotee. It is His mercy.

I heard that there are two Tattvas. Nitaai Tattva and Krishna Tattva. Devotees who only chant the Hare Krishna Mahamantra are under Krishna Tattva. In Krishna Tattva the Lord sometimes gives distress to His devotee so that the devotee can come much closer to Him and thus recieve love of God. However devotees who chant Nityaananda Gauraanga Naam along with the Hare Krishna Mahamantra are under Nitaai Tattva. In Nitaai Tattva Lord Nitaai directly and immediately gives love of God in exchange of just a little faith. He never tests His devotee nor does He ever give distress to His devotees.

However Lord Nitaai is an independent God so He can follow the standards of Krishna Tattva anytime according to His desire. Keeping this in mind His devotees should be ready for any tests.

I request you to throw more light on this as I am always thirsty for knowledge about Lord Nitaai's mercy.

ys,
Mihir.

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New Year Obeisances!

Nityaananda Gauraanga Hare Krishna!

Dear Guruji and all the assembled devotees of the Lord,

Thank you so much for spreading this most Holy and most Merciful names of the Lord. Without these names, sinners like me have no way out.
You have bestowed so much mercy on me. I am eternally indebted to You.

On this occasion of New Year I humbly fall at Your Lotus feet and seek your blessings. Please bless me so that I may always serve the Vaishnavas to the fullest. Please bless me so that I never swerve away from the path of devotional service. I am so full of sins. For a sinner like me the only way to please the Lord is through His devotees.

I seek forgiveness for all the offenses I may have committed at your Lotus feet. Please also forgive me for being so informal. I am not only a sinner but also a fool who does not know how to talk with due respect.

Always your most worthless servant,

Nityaananda Gauraanga Hare Krishna!

Dasadaaso'smi,

Venkat

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