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2. Die zehn Vergehen gegen das Hare Krischna Mahamantra (26.2)


Sri Caitanya Caritamrita Adi-Lila 8.24:

krsna-nama kare aparadhera vicara
krsna balile aparadhira na haya vikara

�Es gibt zehn schwerwiegende Vergehen, welche man beim Chanten des Hare Krischna Mahamantras beachten sollte. Deshalb ger�t man nicht in Ekstase, wenn man einfach nur Hare Krischna chantet.�
Kommentar von BR Sadhu Swami Gaurangapada:

Die zehn schrecklichen und all-gegenw�rtigen Vergehen beim Chanten des Hare Krischna Mahamantras werden im Padma Purana (Brahma-khanda 25.15-18) beschrieben:

1.Das Schm�hen und L�stern grosser Heiliger, welche damit besch�ftigt sind, den heiligen Namen zu predigen, ist das gr�sste Vergehen gegen�ber den Lotusf�ssen des heiligen Namens. Der heilige Name (Naam-prabhu) ist identisch mit Krischna, und wird solche L�sterungen niemals tolerieren, selbst nicht von sogenannt grossen Gottgeweihten.
2.In dieser materiellen Welt ist der heilige Name von Krischna sehr gl�cksverheissend. Krischnas Name,  Form, Eigenschaften und Spiele sind v�llig transzendental und absolutes Wissen. Deshalb ist es ein Vergehen, wenn man versucht, die h�chste Pers�nlichkeit Gottes von Seinem heiligen Namen oder Seiner transzendentalen Form, Seinen Eigenschaften und Spielen zu trennen, indem man denkt, sie seien materiell. Genauso verh�lt es sich, wenn man denkt, die Namen der Halbg�tter wie Shiva seien mit dem Namen Krischnas ebenb�rtig; dies ist ebenfalls ein Vegehen.
3.Den spirituellen Meister (Naam-tattva-vit) als materiell zu betrachten und deshalb seine erhabene Stellung zu beneiden und seinen Anweisungen nicht Folge zu leisten.
4.Schm�hung und L�sterung der vedischen Literatur, wie die vier Vedas und die Puranas, welche den Heiligen Namen verherrlichen.
5.Zu versuchen, den heiligen Namen des Herrn auf eine weltliche Art zu erkl�ren.
6.Zu denken, die Herrlichkeit des heiligen Namens sei Einbildung.
7.Mit s�ndhaften T�tigkeiten weiterzufahren, weil man denkt, dass der heilige Namen den s�ndhaften Reaktionen entgegenwirkt, und gleichzeitig den heiligen Namen zu chanten, um diese Reaktionen aufzuheben, ist das gr�sste Vergehen gegen�ber den Lotusf�ssen von Hari-nama. Jemand der so denkt, kann �berhaupt nicht gereinigt werden, weder durch Entsagung noch durch die verschiedenen Bestrafungen von Yamaraj.
8.Es ist ein grosses Vergehen zu denken, das Chanten des heiligen Namens sei dem Aus�ben von religi�sen Zeremonien ebenb�rtig. Solche religi�se Zeremonien wie Gel�bde, Entsagungen und Feueropfer, sind alles materielle gl�cksverheissende T�tigkeiten.
9.Es ist ein Vergehen, die Herrlichkeit des heiligen Namens jemandem zu predigen, der nicht h�ren will, oder zu atheistischen Menschen und solchen, welche kein Vertrauen in das Chanten des heiligen Namens haben.
10.Der niedrigste aller Menschen, welcher, obwohl er �ber die Herrlichkeit des transzendentalen heiligen Namens des Herrn geh�rt hat, mit seiner materialistischen Weltanschauung fortf�hrt, indem er denkt �Ich bin dieser K�rper, und alles was diesem K�rper geh�rt ist mein (aham mameti)�, und keine Wertsch�tzung und Zuneigung zum Chanten des heiligen Namens zeigt, begeht das abscheulichste aller zehn Vegehen gegen den heiligen Namen von Krischna.

Gl�cklicherweise beschloss Krischna auf Seinen Wunsch hin, als Er als Gauranga erschien, dass Er diese zehn Vergehen nicht ber�ksichtigen wird in der Beziehung zu Seinem (Gaurangas) Namen, Seiner Form, heiligen Orte und Gef�hrten. Somit wurden die Namen von Gauranga und Nityananda zur einzigen Hoffnung auf Erl�sung f�r die bedingten Seelen im Zeitalter des Kali, welche vollst�ndig in die obengenannten zehn Vergehen gegen den heiligen Namen von Krischna in der Form des Hare Krischna Mahamantras, eingetaucht sind.



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Re: Jaya Radha Madhava


Dear devotees,

     Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna! A little bit more on serving the Lord...

     We are all unique and owing to our own unique set of cirumstances we have our own unique skills, talents and limitations. Therefore when we serve the Lord or the devotees it is always best when we serve Him with whatever talents we have. Someone may be a gardener, another a cook, a driver, an accountant, an editor, a therapist, a musician, an accomplished speaker, etc....anything. However these personal services must never be identified as the universal standard for all to follow. Then people will only blindly imitate. They will only remember the skill and forget the Lord. The only universal standard is the SERVICE ATTITUDE and NAAMA SANKIRTANA and not the type of skill one has. An individual's speciality should not be blindly copied by others. What will we do if everyone was just a gardener or everyone just knew how to drive a car or if everyone wanted to do only one other work?

       Actually the humble sweeper in the temple is no way inferior to the book publisher or the public speaker on the absolute level and so it is meaningless to ask, "Which service is better?" Actually it is, "Whose attitude is better?" Therefore while I do say that professional musicians can put their vast talent to serve the Lord, one must remember that it is the mood of service and not artistry that actually counts. Beginners please note that down.

        This story narrated by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati warns about blind imitation :

A Fallacy of Custom

   Every morning some brahmanas would take their bath in the Ganges and offer their daily prescribed prayers to the Lord. All of them were taking their own copper vessels for offering water to the Lord. But through oversight, all the copper vessels invariably changed hands everyday.

   Finally an elderly brahmana, in order to differentiate his own copper vessel from others, put a lump of sand on his own copper vessel and went to take a bath. Observing this practice, all the other brahmanas assumed that this must be a holy custom and imitated the said elderly brahmana by putting the a lump of sand on their vessels.

   After taking bath, the elderly brahmana came out of the river and found that it was impossible to identify his own copper vessel, because each and every vessel had a lump sand on it. At this, the elderly brahmana said to himself, �How over-attached to rituals these fellows are! Without realising the real purpose of anything, they just imitate others. If they had applied their common sense, they would not have marked their copper vessels in the same way.�

      This should make everything clear....

PS : Could this and the previous two replies including Hadai prabhu's post be shifted to the Jay Radha Madhava posted by Hadai Prabhu? It was accidentally posted on the wrong thread.

Daaso'smi,
Srinath



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Re: Jaya Radha Madhava


Dear prabhu,

     Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna! What Swamiji said is only for worthless worms like us who are on the relativistic platform and not perfected souls like yourself who are on the absolute level and can see through all lack of qualifications. Your ears convert even material sounds into spiritually perfect vibrations. Actually the professional singers depend on you, you don't depend on them.

         There are so many songs composed by pure devotees in my part of the country which are only rendered by professional musicians and theirs' are the only recordings available. In that case what can we do, but look at the message itself rather than who delivered it. After all we cannot lose the vani of the pure devotees just because we can't get them under ideal circumstances. I have thousands of such songs myself, but out of respect for the devotees I just can't afford to lose all that nectar -- because it is not available anywhere else. The vani coming from professional singers may not be 100% pure, but when it goes through your ears and then comes out from your mouth, it will be 100% spritually refined and restored to full potency.

        It is like getting an old manuscript not in very good condition, but which is fully capable of being restored and then printed into 1st class books, devotees like yourself can then sing those songs and they will become infinitely pure by entering into your mouth regardless of what they were earlier.
Sometimes the music in the songs is very nice and devotees with good musical background can use their talent to purify the tunes as well and use their music in the Lord's service. Music is originally spiritual. I am talking from my point of view here as I have some little musical talent, but those with other talents should use their skills accordingly and not imitate others. It's best when we serve the Lord with whatever skills we have, but we must be careful not to forget the Lord and remember only skills.

           We beginners must never forget that the words are the main thing and that the tune is not of any importance except that it is serving the Lord with one's own personal talent. Those personal services are individual specific and shouldn't be imitated by others or else we'll forget the kirtan and only remember tunes and the purpose of kirtan is defeated. Ultimately kirtan is supremely beautiful if it is sung by even a devotee with the worst voice on the planet as it is absolute and it is sinful to even drag it down to relative levels.

      Thank you for appreciating the singing of that Bhajan troupe. Now I am sure that Lord Nityananda will show them great mercy very soon because they unknowingly gave great joy to a pure devotee like yourself. However we are animals in human bodies and we must always remember that your behaviour cannot be imitated. If at all we small time sadhakas are able to get the same vani from pure devotees, then we must go there straightaway. The present situation is only fine when no other options are available. So I'll listen to Swamiji or Prabhupada.

Daaso'smi,
Srinath



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Re: Jaya Radha Madhava


Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna!

Dear Guruji, Jagannatha Gauranga dasa and devotees please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga! All glories to Sri Sri Radha Madhava.

When I listen to the above sung I feel indescribable loving feelings towards Lord Sri Krishna and my hairs stand on end when I see the supremely beautiful Lord walking along the banks of the Yamuna River. Maybe the messenger is not pure, but the message delivered is absolutely pure. The song, coming from the lips of Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura, is full of the Names and the intimate Pastimes of the Lord and exists only on the transcendental plane. It can only be relished on the transcendental plane and gives intense joy to the devotees of the Lord. The beauty is in the heart of the relisher. When a king delivers a message to another king through a subordinate messenger who has no clue about the message itself, the message is still conveyed. The devotional words on this forum are still conveyed despite being transmitted by a highly for profit internet system.

But when a non-devotee tries to convey the pure transcendental message of Lord Gauranga Krishna to another non-devotee: that is like a blind man leading blind people. Although the message is absolutely pure it is not relished as such. Therefore it is so important that non-devotees come in contact with the pure devotee of the Lord so their hearts may be awakened responding to the pure the transcendental message.

There is also tremendous benefit for the non-devotee messengers. When they take the holy Names of the Supreme Lord on their lips they are immensely purified. Because the Lord is Absolute it is a natural characteristic of His transcendental Name. When the great sinner Amajila was calling out �Narayana� (with feeling because it was the name of his favorite son) he was delivered. Moreover when a non-devotee chants the holy Names and Pastimes of the Lord for the wrong reasons, but somehow pleases a pure devotee of the Lord by doing so, his blessings are immeasurable.

I am sure it is because I am so deeply fallen that I get exited when I hear the Lords Name regardless of who the messenger is. I can�t really distinguish who is a devotee and who is not because to me anybody who chants the pure holy Name of Lord Gauranga Krishna is a devotee. I cannot but see a devotee in that person even though he or she is misleading me. I am convinced that over time that person will become a pure devotee of the Lord because he or she has been in contact with the pure holy Name of the Lord. Maybe it will take another million of lives when that person becomes a pure devotee but that is just a measurement of relative time. In reality, in eternal time, that person is a pure devotee of the Lord and who am I to consider him or her anything less than that?

I fall at the feet of all Vaisnavas and ask for your forgiveness and beg you to overlook my simple and primitive understanding of such high topics.

Your aspiring servant,

Hadai Nityananda dasa

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna!



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Re: Atheists are most unfortunate


Dear devotees,

     Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna! A little bit more on serving the Lord...

     We are all unique and owing to our own unique set of cirumstances we have our own unique skills, talents and limitations. Therefore when we serve the Lord or the devotees it is always best when we serve Him with whatever talents we have. Someone may be a gardener, another a cook, a driver, an accountant, an editor, a therapist, a musician, an accomplished speaker, etc....anything. However these personal services must never be identified as the universal standard for all to follow. Then people will only blindly imitate. They will only remember the skill and forget the Lord. The only universal standard is the SERVICE ATTITUDE and NAAMA SANKIRTANA and not the type of skill one has. An individual's speciality should not be blindly copied by others. What will we do if everyone was just a gardener or everyone just knew how to drive a car or if everyone wanted to do only one other work? 

       Actually the humble sweeper in the temple is no way inferior to the book publisher or the public speaker on the absolute level and so it is meaningless to ask, "Which service is better?" Actually it is, "Whose attitude is better?" Therefore while I do say that professional musicians can put their vast talent to serve the Lord, one must remember that it is the mood of service and not artistry that actually counts. Beginners please note that down.

        This story narrated by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati warns about blind imitation :

A Fallacy of Custom

   Every morning some brahmanas would take their bath in the Ganges and offer their daily prescribed prayers to the Lord. All of them were taking their own copper vessels for offering water to the Lord. But through oversight, all the copper vessels invariably changed hands everyday.

   Finally an elderly brahmana, in order to differentiate his own copper vessel from others, put a lump of sand on his own copper vessel and went to take a bath. Observing this practice, all the other brahmanas assumed that this must be a holy custom and imitated the said elderly brahmana by putting the a lump of sand on their vessels.

   After taking bath, the elderly brahmana came out of the river and found that it was impossible to identify his own copper vessel, because each and every vessel had a lump sand on it. At this, the elderly brahmana said to himself, �How over-attached to rituals these fellows are! Without realising the real purpose of anything, they just imitate others. If they had applied their common sense, they would not have marked their copper vessels in the same way.�

      This should make everything clear....

PS : Could this and the previous two replies including Hadai prabhu's post be shifted to the Jay Radha Madhava posted by Hadai Prabhu? It was accidentally posted on the wrong thread.

Daaso'smi,
Srinath



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..simply devotion...


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krsna!

Dear Gurudeva and Matus, and assembled devotees, please accept my full prostrated obiesances.

I am a personalist and believe that this earth is the sacred place of bhajan. I believe that the shadow is a part of that Divine but not the total. I believe the Summum Bonum truth is inherently simple and delicate, with a fragrance that enchants the mind. I know that the Total contains endless possibility, that consciousness by its very nature - an eternal layer upon layer � not bound by times space or direction. I believe the human soul can choose what 'it wants to be!' And I call that spirit.

I believe we are one family upon this earth, and we can choose now, more than at any time in modern history, to unite � under the banner of simplicity, devotion, and love. To bring forward Reality the Beautiful!

All that we need to do is realize that if we are bound within 'the dark and light', 'right and wrong' etc etc...to humble ourselves and realize we may not be seeing the full reality of consciousness. And if we realize that, then bend the knee and ask to understand.

To realize that the shadow can become the grace of God. Then we can 'Be!'

'Every particle that awakens in beauty, awakens in service to the whole'.

And when we falldown and hurt the 'other', we simply ask, 'if I was all these things, would you still love me?' And the tears transform into joy...

by neil (nava Gauranga dasa).



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Re: Atheists are most unfortunate


Dear prabhu,

     Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna! What Swamiji said is only for worthless worms like us who are on the relativistic platform and not perfected souls like yourself who are on the absolute level and can see through all lack of qualifications. Your ears convert even material sounds into spiritually perfect vibrations. Actually the professional singers depend on you, you don't depend on them.

         There are so many songs composed by pure devotees in my part of the country which are only rendered by professional musicians and theirs' are the only recordings available. In that case what can we do, but look at the message itself rather than who delivered it. After all we cannot lose the vani of the pure devotees just because we can't get them under ideal circumstances. I have thousands of such songs myself, but out of respect for the devotees I just can't afford to lose all that nectar -- because it is not available anywhere else. The vani coming from professional singers may not be 100% pure, but when it goes through your ears and then comes out from your mouth, it will be 100% spritually refined and restored to full potency.

        It is like getting an old manuscript not in very good condition, but which is fully capable of being restored and then printed into 1st class books, devotees like yourself can then sing those songs and they will become infinitely pure by entering into your mouth regardless of what they were earlier.
Sometimes the music in the songs is very nice and devotees with good musical background can use their talent to purify the tunes as well and use their music in the Lord's service. Music is originally spiritual. I am talking from my point of view here as I have some little musical talent, but those with other talents should use their skills accordingly and not imitate others. It's best when we serve the Lord with whatever skills we have, but we must be careful not to forget the Lord and remember only skills.

           We beginners must never forget that the words are the main thing and that the tune is not of any importance except that it is serving the Lord with one's own personal talent. Those personal services are individual specific and shouldn't be imitated by others or else we'll forget the kirtan and only remember tunes and the purpose of kirtan is defeated. Ultimately kirtan is supremely beautiful if it is sung by even a devotee with the worst voice on the planet as it is absolute and it is sinful to even drag it down to relative levels.

      Thank you for appreciating the singing of that Bhajan troupe. Now I am sure that Lord Nityananda will show them great mercy very soon because they unknowingly gave great joy to a pure devotee like yourself. However we are animals in human bodies and we must always remember that your behaviour cannot be imitated. If at all we small time sadhakas are able to get the same vani from pure devotees, then we must go there straightaway. The present situation is only fine when no other options are available. So I'll listen to Swamiji or Prabhupada.

Daaso'smi,
Srinath



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My favourite Naam Realization


Nityananda ! Gauranga ! Hare Krishna !

Dandavats Pranaams.

Following is Nava Gauranga Das Prabhuji's Naam realization and it is my favourite.

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! A couple of weeks ago after reading Swami Gaurangapada's Naam Realisations I found within, the ability, which is not constant, to see in my heart the beautiful form of Prabhu Nityananda. Each time I would chant in japa his Holy Name I would see His Form, and gradually I could see Him in my heart preaching on a street corner in Navadwipa with a crowd around Him.

I continued each session to watch Him and reflect on His flowing hair, blissful eyes and beautiful garments. He was sharing to others about Gauranga, in bliss. He looked like your Deity in the ashrama somewhat. As I watched him from a distance for several days I began to perceive that I was dressed in old cloth and somewhat unclean.

At some point I saw Him extend his arms toward me, and say ,"why do you always sit over there watching?" He knew I felt myself unworthy to approach the group he was talking to. As I was doing japa of his Name, and meditating, he gestured with his arms, He said, "please come with me there is a Kirtana close by I wish to show you." As He said this shivers rushed through my body and tears of overwhelming joy poured from my eyes.

For the next several days of my japa I could see an ecsatic kirtana in an open hall with pillars supporting the roof. I would stand outside each day, and I could see assembled devotees. Mahaprabhu was tall and strong and loudly he would chant the Name of Krishna in the form of the Mahamantra. He was unaware of His surroundings and absorbed in his loud calls. I perceived just by seeing Him that He was in trance. And nearby was Advaita Prabhu playing Mrdanga and dancing like He was leaping upward. His mood of Kirtana seemed to be like a proud lion in a victory call. His appearance was older but His vitality was like a young man.

For several days this would be my meditaiton with my souls eyes. Each day coming back to view this wonderful kirtana. It was the most pleasing japa really. Lately I have been looking at my Murtis and chanting with affection. What am I to make of this? It occured after I read your realisations. Did I experience some kind of shadow, or blessing? Is it ok to meditate like this when it occurs?

Aspiring to be a servant, Nava Gauranga dasa.

Title: Re: Lord Nityananda is calling
User: Swami Gaurangapada      Date: 2006-07-07 16:31:04

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Nava Gauranga dasa is humble and was very hesitant to post this. But thankyou for sharing your genuine realizations. Such meditations while chanting Nityananda, Gauranga, and Hare Krishna Naam are not imaginary but a positive reciprocation from the Lord. By entering deeply into these meditations and making them one with the chanting of the Naam, one develops irrevocable attachment to the Lord and His Associates, a drop of which you now feel for your Deities of Lords Nityananda Gauranga. The spiritual master rejoices to see his spiritual children trying to deeply enter into Naam bhajana and this is a very pleasing thing to his heart.

ys,
Mihir



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