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Thursday, May 8, 2008

Live Chat: How to Chant With Remembrance


May 7, 2008.

guest3830 says: Greetings and dandavats! This is Sarvabhauma das.
Swami says: Welcome Sarvabhauma dasa
Swami says: Thank you for your nice translation of the video
guest3830 says: Not at all. Please accept my humble obeisances.
Swami says: I hope Bhajana is going nicely
guest3830 says: I cannot call it bhajana in my case. It is all mechanical.
guest3830 says: I don't know what real bhakti is.
Swami says: Real Bhakti comes from Remembrance or Smarana
guest3830 says: Smarana comes from shravana and kirtana, right?
Swami says: Yes
Swami says: It is the life of Shravana and Kirtana
guest3830 says: Why is then remembrance not nicely manifested even after prolonged hearing and chanting?
Swami says: Because we are not desiring it intensely while chanting.
Swami says: Clouds of our Anarthas and Mist of the our Ignorance is the cause.
Swami says: We need to make a voluntary effort for smarana while chanting, it is known as Sveccha Purvika
guest3830 says: Effort to remember what?
Swami says: Any of the Lord's attributes
guest3830 says: For me its easier to just try and concentrate of the sound and syllables of the Name. Will this give natural remembrance of the Lord's attributes when the clouds of ignorance and anarthas are removed?
Swami says: That would be a difficult path
Swami says: Shrila Sacchidananda Bhaktivinoda Thakura recommends us to see the Form and close one's eyes and see the Form while chanting
Nava Gauranga dasa quit this room: Click Here to Enter Live Room
guest3830 says: Yes. I am not accustomed to this practice and I tried several times and easily get distracted. May be I should practice more.
Swami says: This practice should be more easier than just hearing the sound. When we are simply hearing the sound, the mind is not engaged
Nava Gauranga dasa says: Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krsna! please accpet my simple obiesances dear guest and Swami
guest3830 says: Yes. Welcome Nava Gauranga dasa prabhu! Please accept my humble obeisances. I will be back in a minute.
Nava Gauranga dasa says: jai
Nava Gauranga dasa says: could you share a little please about jaap and seeing ourself as a follower or sri rupa?
guest3830 says: I am back. I feel uneasy in your presence. You are such elevated souls.
Swami says: Rupanuga Japa begins when we cross the stage of Vaidhi Bhakti
Nava Gauranga dasa says: I am not elevated Sarva...very basic...just live at home and do little service)
Swami says: It is not to be imitated.
Nava Gauranga dasa says: I see
Swami says: How we remember our position in Shri Rupa's camp while chanting, if we don't remember the Form of the Lord first while chanting
Swami says: Naama -> Form -> Guna -> Then Lilaa
Nava Gauranga dasa says: yes...
guest3830 says: Should the form we try to remember correspond to the particular name we are chanting at that time?
Swami says: Yes, the Naama should be the basis of our Remembrance
Swami says: Only remembrance without Naama will not be complete
Swami says: Nava, your name is big for this room, so we cannot see whether you are typing
Swami says: This Room accepts the forum name directly
Nava Gauranga dasa says: can I make it smaller?
Swami says: Please tell me the smaller name you would prefer and I can do it for you
Nava Gauranga dasa says: Nava
Nava Gauranga dasa says: thx
Swami says: Ok, it is done, you will have to reload this page and it should log you in as Nava
Nava Gauranga dasa says: so Maharaja...what is best as we are learning this jaap yoga...how to enter meditation on the form?
Nava says: thank you
Nava says: its nice to be with you both
guest3830 says: Same here.
Swami says: http://nitaaiveda.com/SG_Translated_and … Mantra.htm
Swami says: That should give you the process.
Nava says: thank you very much....I will make strong determination to study this
Swami says: While turning the beads with the fingers and reciting the maha-mantra, one should search out the meaning of the names with the mind. Then one will be able to meditate on the transcendental form of the Lord while chanting. Another procedure is to sit in front of the Deity of the Lord and behold His beautiful form while chanting and meditating on the maha-mantra. When the maha-mantra and the form of the Lord become one while chanting, one should voluntarily practise to remember the 64 transcendental qualities of Lord Krishna. Thereafter when the maha-mantra, the form and the qualities of Krishna become one by regular practice, one should begin meditating on the pastimes (mantra-dhyana-mayi lila) of Lord Krishna and gradually make the pastimes one with the maha-mantra, the form and the qualities of Krishna. As the meditation on the pastimes of the Lord while chanting becomes firmly established, the sadhaka can start meditating on the eight-fold daily pastimes of Shri Shri Radha and Krishna in the spiritual world as per one�s eternal constitutional position (svarasiki) and thus gradually but fully arouse the (rasa) mellow of pure love of God.
Swami says: That is the exact process in the words of Shrila Sacchidananda Bhaktivinoda Thakura. It is same for the Nityaananda and Gauraanga Mantraraajas also.
guest3830 says: So, only trying to concentrate on the sound vibration will not do in the beginning?
Swami says: No, Shrila Sacchidananda Bhaktivinoda Thakura never said to only hear the sound. He speaks about the above for beginners.
Nava says: is this in the above link you just gave?
Nava says: ok...search out the meaning while doing jaap for each name
Nava says: apply focus in that way?
Swami says: Yes, exactly
Nava says: for example Gauranga?
guest3830 says: Ok, thank you!
Swami says: http://nitaaiveda.com/SG_Translated_and … hakura.htm
Swami says: You will find the above quote at this url
Nava says: thx
uest3830 says: Can one advance significantly in chanting the Mantraraajas without receiving Mahadiksha in Them?
Swami says: Certainly one can, if one is chants under a shelter of the instructions or Vani Nityananada Gauranga Naama Tattva Vit devotee.
Nava says: ok in regards to searching out meaning...for example...I am sitting doing jaap of Gauranga Naam...in front of me is a beuatiful photo of Gauranga deity...my heart is feeling devotion due to His 'mercy'....is this the idea in regards to meaning>form>qualities...then I see the name...the eyes and face...the mercy...then pastimes of that mercy?
Swami says: Not exactly, it is more literal than that Nava.
guest3830 says: What is meant by "shelter"? For example I am regularly chanting Nitai Gaura Naam and associating with devotees of Nitaai Sangha through Nitai Veda and this web site. Is this enough?
Swami says: Yes, one should have develop faith in Nityaananda Gauraanga Naama under the guidance of Vani.
Nava says: yes Maharaja....I understand...my way is not structured and will not bring result that well?
Nava says: please attend to guest3830's question...its very essential
Swami says: I mean that one should at least accept Nityaananda Gauraanga Naama Shiksha
Swami says: Nava, your method is not exactly the method given by Shrila Sacchidananda Bhaktivinoda Thakura
Swami says: it is much more easier than what you are doing
20Nava says: tommorrow I will study the link you gave me
guest3830 says: I am sorry for interrupting your conversation. May be it is not good going on with both. Can I just listen to your discussion?
Nava says: I tend to complicate things lol
Swami says: Just see the Form or Photo very deeply, any part of the Lord's Form
Nava says: to be honest prabhu....I need to hear the answers to your questions
Swami says: The close on your eyes and let the Name manifest that Form or Part
Nava says: ok
Swami says: See that Form while Chanting, try to make the Name and Form one in your heart, with eyes opened or closed does not matter
Swami says: It is as simple as that
Swami says: Simple Visualization
Swami says: The focus on the Name should be maintained
Nava says: ok...and this is explained in the link you just gave?
Swami says: Yes, in the first link, all sections are there.
Nava says: ok
Swami says: The Room means everyone can participate or ask questions
Nava says: visulaization is not difficult is it?
Swami says: It is very easy, one can master in a month or so
Swami says: After that one's mind will be very easy to control and the mind will tell us to chant, not vice versa.
Nava says: thank you Gurudeva
Swami says: Always welcome.



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Re: Will we ever understand fully the greatness of Sri Krsna and his opule


SRIMAD BHAGAVAD-GITA
The Hidden Treasure of the Sweet Absolute
Srimad Bhakti Raksaka Sridhara Deva Goswami Maharaja

This version of the Bhagavad Gita is simple to understand very few purports.
Just by reading it you feel you are the there with all the great souls listening to Lord Krsna speaking in plain and simple language.

Don�t try to see God. God said I am the taste of water. When you drink water Lord Krsna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is there. In these verses are some of the quality�s of God

8) O son of Kunti, by the potency of the primordial element of
taste, I am situated as the basis of the flavor of water; and by the opulence of effulgence, I am present in the sun and moon. I am present in the Vedas as their primeval sound vibration, the letter Om; I am present in the atmosphere as the primordial element of sound; and as the Supreme Male, I am present in all men.
9) I dwell in the pure fragrance of the earth, and in the radiance of fire. In all beings, I am present as the lifespan, and in ascetics, I am the power to endure duality such as cold and heat.
10) O Partha, know Me as the eternal primordial cause of all lifeforms. Of the intelligent, I am present as intelligence personified, and of the valiant, I am there as prowess personified.
11) O Arjuna, of the powerful, I am present as strength that is
devoid of selfish interest and mundane attachment; and among all species of life, I am present as that sexual union which is in
accordance with the principles of religion.
12) Furthermore, you should know that all objects that be of the nature of goodness, passion, and ignorance are born of Me alone. Nevertheless, I am not in them. They, being subordinate to Me, exist in Me.


8) I am Krsna, the Sweet Absolute, I am the root cause of the allcomprehensive aspect of the Absolute, the all-permeating aspect of the Absolute, and also the personal aspect of the Absolute the Master of all potencies, who commands the respect of everyone Lord Narayana of Vaikuntha. The universe of mundane and divine flow, every attempt and movement, the Vedas and allied scriptures which guide everyone�s worship all are initiated by Me alone. Realizing this hidden treasure, the virtuous souls who are blessed with fine theistic intellect surpass the standards of duty and nonduty, and embrace the paramount path of love divine, raga-marga, and adore Me forever.

Commentary: Verses 8-11) are the four principal verses of the
Srimad Bhagavad-gita. The ontological substance of the book is
contained within these four essential verses, beginning ahaμ sarvasya prabhavo "Everything emanates from Me."
In the Srimad Bhagavatam (1.2.11), the three main conceptions of the Absolute are given as Brahman, Paramatma, and Bhagavan. Brahman is the all-comprehensive aspect of the Absolute, Paramatma is the allpermeating aspect of the Absolute, and Bhagavan is the personal conception of the Absolute. The general definition of the word Bhagavan is given,
aisvaryasya samagrasya, viryasya yasasah sriyah
jnana-vairagyayos caiva, sannam bhaga itingana
(Visnu Purana 6.5.47)
Bhagavan, the Supreme Lord, is thus defined as 'He who is inseparably replete with the six inconceivable qualities of wealth, power fame, beauty, knowledge, and renunciation.'
The characteristic of Bhagavan, as Lord Narayana, is that all kinds of potencies are personally controlled by Him.
However, Srila Jiva Goswami has given a special and particularly fine interpretation: Bhagavan means bhajaniya guna-visis_a. His nature is such that whoever comes into contact with Him cannot resist serving Him. No one can resist feeling moved to worship and adore His charming personality. As Lord Krsna, He attracts the love of
everyone.
Therefore by the word sarvasya, Lord Krsna indicates, "I am svayam Bhagavan, the Supreme Lord Himself. I am the origin of not only
Brahman, the all-comprehensive aspect, and Paramatma, the allpermeating
aspect. I am also the origin of the Master of all potencies,
who commands the respect of everyone Lord Narayana of Vaikuntha."
Matta sarva pravartate "Every attempt and movement begins from Me,
including the methods by which everyone worships and serves Me in
devotion."
nayam atma pravacanena labhyo
na medhaya na bahuna srutena
yam evaisa vrnute tena labhyas
tasyaisa atma vivrnute tanum svam
(Kathopanisad 1.2.23)
"The Lord cannot be known by copious logic, intelligence, or deep
study of the scriptures. But He reveals Himself personally to the soul
who, having become eager to engage in His devotional service, prays
to Him for His mercy."
In this way, matta� sarvaμ pravartate "I am the first to reveal to the
public, 'Worship Me in this way.' I appear as guru, and through him, I
worship Myself."
In the Srimad Bhagavatam, the guru is described by the Lord as His
own direct manifestation.
acaryam mam vijaniyan, navamanyeta karhicit
na martya buddhyasuyeta, sarva deva-mayo guruh
(Bhag. 11.17.27)
(Lord Krsna said to His devotee, Uddhava:) "You should know the
bona fide spiritual master as My very Self. Never dishonor him. The
nature of gurudeva is everything that is godly, and he should never be
envied by ascribing one�s mundane conception of place, time, and
circumstances upon him."
Furthermore, the Lord's finest potency is Srimati Radharani. Of
course, there are many other eternal associates, but the highest order
of devotional service is represented in Srimati Radharani. The Lord is
therefore saying, "My worship is shown by Me. I, as My finest
potency, worship Myself. Iti matva bhajante mam understanding this
conception, the devotee will come to worship Me, always under the
direction of My best worshiper My finest potency and representation
Radharani, or gurudeva. Crossing Her, the highest and most desirable
form of service to Me is not possible."
Radha-dasyam, the servitorship of Srimati Radharani, is indicated
here. Only those who are blessed with divine intelligence will be able
to appreciate this, and not persons with self-acquired intelligence from
this mayika quarter, the world of misconception. In this verse the
word budhah refers to sumedhasah as described in the Srimad
Bhagavatam (11.5.32): persons of fine theistic intelligence arising
from direct connection with the transcendental plane. The inner
guidance and direction they receive is the outcome of sukrti, divine
merit acquired by the association of pure devotees. Bhava-samanvitah
means raga-samanvitah - anuraga - love and attraction which is
affinity not by strictly following scriptural rules, or drawn from any
plane of loss and gain, but from bhava, inner divine inspiration.
Devotion of this high type is completely noncalculative (jnana-sunya
bhakti), as described by Srila Rupa Goswami in Sri Bhakti-rasamrtasindhu:
anyabhilasita sunyam, jnana-karmady anavrtam
anukulyena krsnanusilanam bhaktir uttama
(B.r.s. 1.1.9)
"The highest devotion pleases the transcendental desires of Lord
Krsna, and is free from the external coverings of any pursuits based on
action or knowledge."
The most rare and elevated stage of devotion is the line of
spontaneous devotion, known as raga-marga. In that line, guided by
the qualified guru, an elevated pure devotee may gradually come to
render service to a leader of one of the groups of Krsna's personal
associates, who serve the Lord in His pastimes in friendship (sakhyarasa),
parenthood (vatsalya-rasa), or consorthood (madhura-rasa). In
Vrndavana, the Lord is being served in sponaneous devotion by His
friends such as Subala Sakha, and by His parents, Nanda Maharaja
and mother Yasoda. Gopis such as Lalita and Visakha serve Him in
conjugal love. But amongst all His associates, and amongst all the
gopis, the highest order of divine loving service is rendered to the
Lord by Srimati Radharani. Therefore the acme of raga-marga is to
render service unto Radharani (Radha-dasyam). This is the highest
goal of the Rupanuga Gaudiya Sampradaya, the followers of pure
devotion as taught by Srila Rupa Goswami Prabhupada, in the line of
Lord Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
9) Those surrendered devotees take Me as their life and soul, and
go on discussing My ambrosial narrations among one another
exchanging the ecstasies of devotion unto Me. They constantly
relish the nectar of their realized divine relationships with Me in
their respective internal natures of servitorship, friendship,
parenthood, or consorthood.
Commentary: The Supreme Lord Krsna is speaking about His pure
devotees:
mac-citta mad-gata-prana
"I am in their heart of hearts, in their every thought. Their entire
energy their whole life is dedicated to My satisfaction. In private life
they converse about Me to mutually enlighten one another, and in
public life also, they always love to talk about Me, and nothing else.
For every time, place, and circumstance, I am the only subject of their
discussion."
Tu,yantica "They find very much satisfaction." Up to the divine
relationship of parenthood (vatsalya-rasa) there is a feeling of
satisfacton. Futhermore, ramanti ca "Just as a wife enjoys conjugal
relationship with her husband, the devotees similarly feel such ecstasy
in My intimate company when speaking about Me." This has also
been explained by Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana, and Srila
Bhaktivinoda Thakura.
10) To those devotees who are constantly dedicated to Me, and
who engage in My service out of their love for Me, I bestow the
internal divine inspiration by which they can approach Me and
render various intimate services unto Me.
Commentary: In this verse, the Lord says, "The highest group of My
servitors (whose sentiment was described in the previous verse by the
word ramanti) are those who are constantly engaged (sataka-yukta) in
My service in consorthood (madhura-rasa) with heartfelt love
(bhajatam priti-purvakam). Then He says that He will give them
further inspiration or inner instruction "by which they can come to
Him" (yena mam upayanti te). When already in this and the previous
verse the devotees� service to the Lord has been described as eternal
(by the words nityam and satata-yukta), Lord Krsna's statement that
He will give them further inspiration by which they can come to Him
appears to be redundant. Therefore, in the expression mam upayanti te
("They will come to Me"), the word upayanti must be defined as
parakiya-bhavena-upapati. Pati means husband, and upapati means
paramour:
"For those who have already come into divine relationship with Me as
My wife (ramanti), I give them the special inspiration to come to Me
as a paramour (upapati)."
In Vrndavana, Lord Krsna is not considered a lawful husband, but He
is the Lord of the heart, transcendental to even the husband (parakiyarasa).
Deceiving their husbands, the gopis of Vrndavana unite with
Krsna. They do not allow a second party to come between them and
Krsna. They cannot allow the interception of even scriptural
regulation and social law, because Krsna's position is absolute, and
such a relationship is more relishable to Him. This is Vrndavana
bhajana, and this is the meaning of upapati.
vikriditam vraja-vadhubhir idam ca visnoh
sraddhanvito 'nusrnuyad atha varnayed yah
bhaktim param bhagavati pratilabhya kamam
hrd-rogam asv apahinoty acirena dhirah
(Bhag. 10.33.39)
"A self-controlled, sense-controlled person who, having become
endowed with sublime faith in the divine pastimes transcendentally
enjoyed by Lord Krsna with the gopis (Rasa-lila), and who, having
heard those divine pastimes from the lotus mouth of the bona fide
guru, continuously sings or narrates their glories such a person swiftly
achieves the most elevated form of pure devotion for the Lord, and is
promptly able to ward off the heart disease of lust."
In his writings, Srila Jiva Goswami has laid stress on the word dhira,
meaning 'self-controlled'. To hear these elevated subjects, one must
enter into the culture of sense-control, otherwise he will be destroyed.
naitat samacarej jatu, manasapi hy anisvarah
vinasyaty acaran maudhyad, yatharudro 'bdhi-jam visam
(Bhag. 10.33.30)
"No one should ever even think of imitating this behavior of the
Supreme Lord and the gopis. If out of gross foolishness anyone tries
to imitate the pastimes of the Lord, he will be utterly destroyed, just as
if he tried to imitate Lord Siva by drinking the poison which arose
from the ocean." (It is described elsewhere in the Srimad Bhagavatam
that once the demigods and the demons jointly engaged in churning
the ocean. As a result of that churning, both nectar and poison were
produced.)
"My relationship with them is independent of everything conceivable.
It crosses law, society, scripture everything. It is most innate and
natural, and it does not require any social or scriptural sanction. I say
to them, 'You may show formal respect to all these restrictions and
live in the society. But from the heart of your heart, you are Mine.'
This is the special inspiration and insight I give to those devotees
(yena mam upayanti te)."
"Externally there are social and scriptural demands, but My position is
over and above them. Veda is My instruction for the benefit of the
masses, who have deviated from Me, and the society is also under the
jurisdiction of those general instructions given to the public by Me.
But My divine relationship with everything is intrinsic and
independent. It does not require recognition from anyone. Such a
relationship is the highest. It is the constant. It supercedes all law and
society which are guided by the Vedas; rather all the Vedas are
searching for such a thing."
Srutibhir vimrgyam (Bhag. 10.47.61). Visesa-mrgya the Vedas are
searching after this ideal divine position. In the section of the Srimad
Bhagavatam which deals with Rasa-lila, the Vedas are begging
forgiveness:
"We are generally supposed to give tidings of You, but we could not
describe You as we now experience You here. Now we understand
that we have committed an offense, because we could not distribute
this Rasa-lila, this Vraja-lila, to the people."
Like signposts, all the revealed scriptures are only showing the
direction; but where, how? "We don't know." Only, "In this direction
He may be available."
Anywhere and everywhere, everything belongs to Him. For one who
knows this, all possibilities of sensual pleasure and exploitation are
uprooted. For example, an unmarried woman may have the possibility
of being approached by many but there is less possibility for those
who are married, because they are possessed by someone. Similarly,
when we are able to know that everything is only for the satisfaction
of Krsna, then we shall realize that all our exploiting tendencies have
vanished forever. Nothing will remain to be utilized for the pleasure of
our sensual experience. It will be very deeply felt in our hearts that
everything has its existence only for His satisfaction, and there is no
room for any other exploitation. And we are also included there our
existence is also only for His satisfaction. Everything is meant for His
divine pastimes (lila), and there is no possibility for any others'
pastimes. All are included in that one lila. Encroachment will
disappear when we learn the proper utility of everything. He is the
owner, and His ownership is absolute. The scriptures, society, and law
designate, "This is yours, that is another's, or that belongs to third
party." This is something like a temporary lease, but the permanent
ownership is in all respects with Him. All others possessor and
property, master and servant are all relative, and only sanctioned by
Him for the time being. The Absolute Owner, Possessor, and Enjoyer
is He alone. When we arrive at such a conclusion, only then is
complete purification of our hearts possible. Everyone is thinking of
themselves as many masters of many things, but this is all heart
disease (hrd-rogam). This is all conceived in a diseased state of
consciousness. In a healthy state, when the heart is quite wholesome,
we can see the Supreme whole, and we can see that everything is
meant only for His satisfaction.
11) Out of compassion for them, I, situated within the hearts of all
living beings, dispel the darkness of ignorance with the radiance
of knowledge.
or
11) Being conquered by the love of those devotees who, in the most
elevated position of noncalculative loving devotion (jnana-sunya
prema-bhakti), are afflicted by all-devouring darkness born of the
pangs of separation from Me, their Lord I, granting them the
internal illumination of meeting Me personally, destroy the
darkness of their agony of separation.
Commentary: The general interpretation is always given for this
verse:
"Out of compassion for them, I, situated within their hearts, dispel the
darkness of ignorance with the radiance of knowledge."
But if we appreciate pure, noncalculative devotion (jnana-sunya
bhakti), the Lord's statement here may again appear redundant and
inconsistent. When those high devotees are already admitted to be
performing continuous and unadulterated service, and even above that,
they are situated in the plane of pure love, spontaneous and automatic
(raga-marga), how can it be harmonized that the Lord will now in the
last stage destroy their ignorance (tamah) which is born from
misunderstanding (ajnana-jam), by giving them knowledge (jnana)?
Jnana is only a cover a futile, finite conception of the Infinite Absolute
(jnana-karmady anavrtam ... bhaktir uttama). When they have
achieved devotion devoid of the cov- ering of knowledge (jnana-sunya
bhakti), how will they again have to return to that knowledge (jnana)?
In his commentary, Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura has
mentioned that this knowledge is extraordinary (vilaksanam), but he
did not enter into specific detail. To clarify this point, we have given
the following explanation:
Lamentation and delusion are generally known to be symptoms of the
mode of ignorance (tamo-guna). In jnana-sunya bhakti, the elevated
devotees who take Krsna not as the Supreme God, but as a friend, son,
husband, or lover, will come to experience lamentation and delusion,
but this is only an outward appearance of ignorance. In fact, it is the
pain of divine separation. They lament, "Where have You gone?"
In this verse, the Lord's statement, tesam evanukampa-artham
generally means 'Fortunately for them', or, 'To favor them (I dispel
their darkness, etc.)'. But it may also be interpreted, 'I want their favor.
I aspire for the favor of those devotees of the highest order.'
The Lord also says in the Srimad Bhagavatam:
mayi bhaktir hi bhutanam, amrtatvaya kalpate
distya yad asin mat-sneho, bhavatinaμ mad-apanah
(Bhag. 10.82.44)
"Devotion to Me is the only means for the living beings to attain
eternal life. O Gopis, by your fortune, your love and affection for Me
is the only reason for your getting My association."
This is the general meaning. However, in Sri Caitanya-caritamrta,
Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Goswami has drawn out the inner meaning,
which is just the opposite:
"Through devotion, everyone wants Me to help them attain the highest
position of eternal benefit, and if they have a connection with Me,
they consider themselves fortunate. But I consider Myself fortunate
because I have come in touch with the valuable affection that I found
in your hearts. By My fortune, I got your association."
Therefore here in Sri Gita, the Lord is saying, "Tesam
evanukampartham being conquered by the love of those devotees,
when I cannot tolerate their pain of separation, I at once come running
to satisfy them, and I reveal to them with special light, special
consciousness, 'I have returned to you see Me now.' With powerful
brilliance (jnana-dipena) I show them My presence when they are very
much in need of Me, and I relieve their pain of separation."
Atma-bhava-sthah: He reveals Himself according to His devotee's
divine relationship with Him (rasa): to a friend, as a friend; to a
mother, as a child; to a wife, as a husband; and to the sweethearts, as a
paramour.
After Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu left home and accepted the renounced
order of life, sannyasa, mother Saci could not tolerate the deep
separation, and she began to cry. Sacidevi was preparing excellent
dishes, offering them to the Deity, and weeping, "Where is my Nimai?
He's very fond of these curries. His favorite dishes, and Nimai is not
here." Suddenly, Lord Caitanya came and began to eat. Sacidevi
exclaimed, "Oh, Nimai is eating!" and for the time being her
separation was relieved. Moments later, she reconsidered, "Did I see
Nimai eating? But He is now a sannyasi in Jagannatha Puri, so how
could He have come here? Did I serve Him? There must be a
mistake." Then she examined the pots again to see if there was food
there. Finding them empty, she began to conjecture whether even a
dog or some other animal had come and eaten it. But during that
moment, Nimai had actually come, and mother Saci saw Him in broad
daylight. That illumination is transcendental, and not the 'knowledge'
(jnana) that is generally known in our vocabulary.
The acme of theism is parakiya-rasa. Parakiya means 'another's'. In
every divine relationship (rasa), the Lord captures all. In the whole of
Vrndavana, where everyone follows the path of love (raga-marga),
this parakiya-rasa is infused. The friends of Krsna sometimes say,
"Some people say that Krsna is a resident of Mathura. They say He's
the son of Vasudeva, and He will soon go to Mathura. They say He is
not our friend! Will we really lose His company? Then how will we
be able to live in this jungle and drive the cows?" They experience this
apprehension "We may lose Him at any time." This intensifies their
friendly service to Him.
Similarly, mother Yasoda says, "Some say that Krsna is not my son,
He's Devaki's son. What is this? I won't admit this. He's my child!"
This idea enhances Yasoda's affection for Krsna: "I may lose Him?
Then how shall I live?" Therefore, the parakiya-rasa stresses the rarity
of Krsna's relationship, because the possibility of losing His company
is always in the background. But the highest intensity of service is to
be found in the madhura-rasa (conjugal) camp. In the other rasas, there
is the idea of suspense that He may 'go away', but in the conjugal
relationship in the divine abode of Vrndavana, the consorts cross the
direction of the scriptures and the society, which guide everyone to
remain as husband and wife (svakiya). Parakiya ('another's') has been
accepted in the science of devotion as the highest conception above
svakiya ('belonging'), because social and scriptural sanction is
generally a stale conception. Parakiya or paramour relationship is
necessary to deceive those who claim ownership over another, such as
a husband over the wife, or a parent over a child. In the normally
accepted connection (svakiya) the relationship is very cheap, but to
cross the jurisdiction of the scriptures and society, as paramour, means
a greater risk as if to commit sin. Thus, this relationship is very rare,
and rarity enhances its intensity and value. The idea of deceiving the
'possessor' to favor the 'nonpossessor' is a beautiful ornamental
conception. Actually in Krsna's case there cannot be any state of
paramourship, because in truth He is the owner of everything.
However the divine arrangement is fashioned in this way to enhance
the devotee's internal devotion for the Lord, just as food appears more
tasteful when hunger is present.
In the planets known as Vaikuntha, the nature of worship of the Lord
Visnu is gorgeous, majestic, reverential, and awe-inspiring. But above
that, the highest conception of Godhead is just like a human form and
nature. It is stated in Sri Caitanya-caritamrta in the teachings to
Sanatana Goswami:
krsnera yateka khela sarvottama nara-lila
nara-vapu tahara svarupa
gopa-vesa veukara nava-kisora na_avara
nara-lila haya anurupa
krsnera madhura-rupa suna sanatana
ye rupera eka kaa dubaya saba tribhuvana
sarva-prani kare akarsana
"The most supreme form of Godhead is Krsna, who plays in His
eternal divine pastimes just like a human being. An ever-youthful
cowherd boy of Vrndavana, He enacts His pastimes, always playing
His flute. His beauty is so charming and sweet, that the whole
universe is flooded by an atom of it, and all beings are drawn
irresistibly to Him."
He is approachable by all. We can find God nearest of all in a human
feature. It has been explained how Krsna's nature of human feature is
the highest nature of the Absolute, according to the calculation of
ecstasy (rasa), which is the common standard of measurement of the
whole scope of the Infinite. By the development of santa-, dasya-,
sakhya-, vatsalya-, and madhura-rasa, and then parakiya
(peacefulness, servitude, friendship, parenthood, and consorthood, and
the paramour relationship), this is scientifically proved, without
whimsical or blind faith. If we follow the line of Rupanuga-bhajana
(devotion following the standard of Srila Rupa Goswami) which
originates from Sri Caitanyadeva, the scientific basis can be
appreciated. The previous acaryas have left for us, step by step, how
we can follow, conceive, and attain all these things.
12-13) Arjuna said: O Lord, You are the Supreme Absolute
Truth, the supreme shelter, and the supreme saviour. All the
prominent sages as Devarsi Narada, Asita, Devala and Vyasa have
described You as the self-illuminating, self-manifest eternal
Supreme Person, the foundation of almighty majesty, and the
origin from whose divine play everything emanates and now You
are personally declaring this to be true.
14) O Kesava, I totally accept as factual all that You have told me,
beginning from Your statement, 'na me viduh' "They do not know
Me." O Lord, now it is confirmed that no one among either the
demigods or the demons know your identity in full.
15) O Supreme Person, universal father, O Lord of all beings,
Lord of all gods, Lord of the universe! By your own divine
cognizant potency, only You can know Yourself.
16) Please kindly describe to me in full those supernatural,
personal opulences by which You pervade all these worlds.
17) O Almighty Lord of the creation, please tell me how I can
meditate on You constantly and in all respects. What are the
elements, qualities, situations, and forms by which I am to
contemplate on You in devotion?
18) O Janardana, please once again describe Your majestic
opulences and the process of devotion unto You, this time in an
elaborate way, since I never become satiated by hearing Your
ambrosial words and instructions.
19) The Supreme Lord said: O Arjuna, best of the Kurus, I shall
describe to you simply the prominent, manifest, transcendental
almighty opulences of Mine which arise from My divine conscious
potency since My extensive glories are unlimited.
20) O Gudakesa, I am the Supersoul situated as the controller
within the hearts of all souls, and I am the single cause of the
birth, sustenance, and annihilation of all beings.
21) Of the twelve Adityas, I am Visnu, of the luminaries I am the
great radiant sun; of the Vayus I am Marici, and of the stars I am
the moon.
22) Of the Vedas, I am Sama-veda; of the demigods I am Lord
Indra; of the senses I am the mind, and I am cognizance in all
beings.
23) Of the eleven Rudras I am Sankara, and of the Yaksa and
Raksasa races I am Kubera. Of the eight Vasus I am Agni, and of
mountains I am Sumeru.
24) O Partha, you should know Me as the chief of priests,
Brhaspati; among generals I am Kartikeya, and of reservoirs I am
the ocean.
25) Of sages, I am Bhrgu; of sound vibrations, Oμ; of all
sacrifices, the repetition of the holy names; and of the immovable,
the Himalayas.
26) I am the Asvattha among trees, Narada of godly sages,
Citraratha of heavenly singers, and Kapila Muni of perfected
beings.
27) Among horses know Me as Uccaihsrava, who was born at the
time of churning of the ocean of nectar; know Me as Airavata
among elephants, and the king among men.
28) Of weapons I am the thunderbolt, and of cows I am the
heavenly desire-fulfilling cow. Of cupids I am he who ensures
progeny, and among the single-headed venomous snakes I am
Vasuki, the king of all snakes.
29) Of the multi-headed nonpoisonous serpents I am the Anantanaga,
and of aquatics I am Varunadeva. Of the deified ancestors I
am Aryama, and of law-enforcers I am Yamaraja, the lord of
punishment.
30) Of the Daityas (descendants of Diti) I am Prahlada Maharaja,
and of subjugators I am time. Among all the animals I am the
lion, and of the birds I am Garuda.
31) Of sanctifiers, or of the rapid, I am the wind; of weaponwielding
heroes I am Lord Parasurama; among fish I am the
shark, and of rivers I am the Ganges.
32) O Arjuna, of created objects, beginning with the sky, I alone
am the creation, dissolution, and sustenance. Of all wisdom I am
the knowledge of the soul, and of the logicians� or philosophers�
debate and criticism I am the demonstrated conclusion.
33) Of the primary letters of the alphabet I am the letter 'a', and
of compound words I am the dual. I alone am the endless flow of
time, and of creators I am the four-headed Lord Brahma.
34) Of plunderers I am death, the vanquisher of all recollection;
and of the predestined six transformations of the living beings I
am birth, the foremost. Of ladies, I am the seven qualities of a
good wife grace, beauty, perfect speech, remembrance,
intelligence, patience, and forgiveness.
35) Of all the mantras in the Sama-veda I am the Brhatsama
mantra which is uttered in prayer to Lord Indra, and of mantras
in perfect prosody I am the holy Gayatri mantra. Of the months I
am the foremost, Agrahayana, and of the seasons I am spring.
36) I am the dice-throwing of mutual cheaters, and influence of
the influential. I am victory for the victorious, perseverance of the
enterprising, and the strength of the mighty.
37) Of the Yadavas I am Vasudeva, of the Pandavas I am Arjuna,
of the sages, I am Vyasadeva, and of the scholarly knowers of the
scriptures I am Sukracarya.
38) I am the punishment meted out by chastisers, and the
diplomatic policy of victory-seekers I am the silence of all secrets,
and the wisdom of the wise.
39) O Arjuna, whatever has been considered the origin of all
beings I am certainly that. No stationary or moving being, object
or soul, can exist separately from Me.
40) O conqueror of the enemy, there is no end to My
superexcellent opulences. Only for your edification have I
described a few of them.
41) Know for certain that whatever is sublime, beautiful, and
magnificent is born from a mere fraction of My potency.

42) But Arjuna, what is the need of your understanding this
elaborate knowledge of My almighty grandeur? By My fractional
expansion as the Supreme Soul of material nature, Maha-Visnu
(Karanarnavasayi Visnu), I remain supporting this entire
universe of moving and stationary beings.


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Here is a store house of nectar and rare videos. For the faithful.
             

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Dalalera-gita


Dalalera-gita

1)  boro �ukher khabor gai
                  surabhi-kunjete namer hat khule'che (khoda nitai)
2)  boro mojar kotha tay
          �raddha-mulye �uddhe-n�ma sei hatete bikay
3)  jata bhakta-b�nda basi'
adhikari dekhe' nama becche daro k��i
4)     jadi n�ma kinbe, bhai
amar sange calo, mahajaner kache jai
5)     tumi kinbe krsna-nama
dasturi loibo ami, purna ha'be k�ma
6)     boro dayal nityananda
�raddha-matra lo'ye den parama-ananda
7)     ek-bar dekhle cakhe jal
'gaura' bole' nitai den sakala samb�l
8)     den cuddha krsna-sik�a
jati, dh�na, bidya, bala na kore apekha
9)     amani chare maya-jala
g�he thako, vane thako, na thake janjal
10)    ar naiko kalir bhoy
acandale den nama, nitai doya-moy
11)    bhaktivinoda daki' koy
nitai-carana bin�'ar nahi a�ray

1) I am singing news of great holy tidings. Lord Nityananda Himself has opened a market-place of the holy name in Surabhi-kunja.
2) He is selling the pure holy name in that market-place for the price of only one's faith.
3) Lord Nityananda, seeing all the devotees becoming attracted, is selling them the holy name after bargaining with them.
4) O brother, if you want the holy name then come with me. We must go to that great soul, Nityananda.
5) You will get the name of Krsna, I will take my commission and all of our desires will be fulfilled.
6) Lord Nityananda is greatly merciful. Taking only one's faith, He gives the highest ecstasy.
7) If He sees only once tears in the eyes while chanting the name "Gaura" then He gives everything to that person.
8) He gives the pure teachings of Krsna to everyone not caring for their birth, wealth, knowledge and strength.
9) Now, giving up the illusory snare of Maya, either remain in household life or in the forest as a sannyasi, for no more troubles remain.
10) There is no more fear of the age of Kali. the merciful Nityananda gives the holy name to even the candalas.
11) Bhaktivinoda calls out: "Except for the lotus feet of Lord Nityananda there is no other shelter!"



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A steady and self-honest approach to Naam Bhajan - mercy of Gurudeva!


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krsna!

from Sri Caitanya and Ragunaga Bhakti by Srila Adikesava Prabhu

"....But sometimes on the assistance of Radha, the sakhis agree to have anga sangha with Krsna. A manjari never accepts anga-sanga with Krsna, even if Krsna desires and Radha insists. She is so absorbed in the happiness she feels in the service of Radha Krsna that it is impossible to think of her anga-sanga with Krsna even in a dream. The happiness she feels in bringing about the meeting between Radha and Krsna is a thousand times superior to the happiness she may feel in her own anga-sanga with Krsna...."

"The manjari is so closely and intimately related to Radha on account of her bhava, that there appears to be perfect identity (tadatmya) between the two. No doubt the sakhis are all partial manifestations (kayavhuya-rupa) of Radha and are related to Her as the leaves and the flowers of a tree are related to the tree. But in the case of the manjaris the identity is so complete that the bhava of Radha and the extraordinary bliss she experiences in Her association with Krsna are automatically reflected in them. In Govinda-lilamrta Krsnadasa Kaviraja Goswami says:
'When Krsna touched Radha the satvika bhavas like tremor, sweating and horripilation appear on the body of the manjari. When Krsna tastes the nectar of the lips of Radha, she feels like one, who is drunk or intoxicated.'

I asked Swami Gaurangapada yesterday about Naam Jaap and following Rupa Goswami in sadhana practice, who is non-other than Rupa Manjari. He was very frank and straightforward with me. You are not ready to do raganuga bhajan!

Why?

How can one do raganuga bhajan when one cannot remember the form of the Lord constantly, in jaap.

Instead he gave me this to read instructing how to begin to see the form when doing jaap:

name > form > qualities > pastimes:

This text is also deeply inspirational because it makes one's heart burn with desire to attain the treasure of the Maha-mantra!

Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura

Shrila Thakura Bhaktivinoda in Hari-nama-cintamani Chp 15:

�The process of nama-sadhana is as follows-In the beginning, the introspective spiritual aspirant should cultivate the continuous chanting and rememberance of the Hare Krisna maha-mantra while endeavouring to give up the ten offenses. By loudly and distinctly uttering the maha-mantra, he should chant and remember the meaning. Gradually the chanting will become clear, steady and blissful. At that point one should meditate on the three-fold bending form Lord Shyamasundara while chanting.

While turning the beads with the fingers and reciting the maha-mantra, one should search out the meaning of the names with the mind. Then one will be able to meditate on the transcendental form of the Lord while chanting. Another procedure is to sit in front of the Deity of the Lord and behold His beautiful form while chanting and meditating on the maha-mantra. When the maha-mantra and the form of the Lord become one while chanting, one should voluntarily practise to remember the 64 transcendental qualities of Lord Krishna.

Thereafter when the maha-mantra, the form and the qualities of Krishna become one by regular practice, one should begin meditating on the pastimes (mantra-dhyana-mayi lila) of Lord Krishna and gradually make the pastimes one with the maha-mantra, the form and the qualities of Krishna.

As the meditation on the pastimes of the Lord while chanting becomes firmly established, the sadhaka can start meditating on the eight-fold daily pastimes of Shri Shri Radha and Krishna in the spiritual world as per one�s eternal constitutional position (svarasiki) and thus gradually but fully arouse the (rasa) mellow of pure love of God. In the beginning of this process of chanting, the sadhaka was a neophyte. But if he cultivates the above process of chanting the Hare Krisna maha-mantra. especially in the association of first-class (uttama) devotees, then very soon he will raise himself to the platform of an intermediate (madhyama) devotee and thereafter he will achieve the topmost platform of an uttama-vaishnava (defined earlier). When one practices chanting as a neophyte while chanting in namabhasa (without much faith), the unwanted things (anarthas) in his heart are destroyed and he gradually gets the qualification to chant the maha-mantra purely and serve the devotees.

nama smarile rupa aise sange sange;
rupa nama bhinna naya nace nana range.

�When one remembers the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, the transcendental form of the Lord Krishna appears in the heart and mind along with the chanting. When one realizes that the Hare Krishna maha-mantra and Krishna�s form are non-different then the maha-mantra dances on the tongue enabling the chanter to taste a variety of ecstatic mellows at every second.�

What follows are some wonderful extracts from Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura�s essay entitled �Nama Bhajana� which vividly explain the process of chanting:

When the sincere thrills of joy and tears trickling down the cheeks the devotees constantly chant, hear and remember the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, they gradually reach the stage of Bhava. Appearing in the heart, Krishna erases their spots out and out from their mind, and thus cleansing their heart graciously blesseth them with His own Prema. Extreme humbleness and utter devotion are necessary to call Krishna to the heart. Then when earthly knowledge , reasonings and strivings are completely burnt to ashes, the soul�s eyes can perceive Bhagavan and His associated counter-parts.

The fortunate ones who earnestly long to ascend the terrace of Prema, do sincerely and incessantly chant the maha-mantra in the company of sadhus. They do not have any appetite for any other feature of devotion. When in a short time by the grace of the maha-mantra, the heart becomes closely attentive, the fruits of religious forbearance, control over sensual appetities, religious observances, withholding the breath by way of religious austerity, abstract religious contemplation, steady abstraction of the mind and indifference to external impressions are very easily gained without paying the least heed to all these. The maha-mantra alone is a complete suspension of the fleeting mental operations. The more the heart is pellucid, the more diverse pastimes of the Spiritual Kingdom play in it. The flow of milk of this felicity is so very fast running that no other means can give even the smallest drop of it. Jivas have no other wealth than the grace of Krishna.

Devotees who are desirous of ascending the terrace of Prema should remember a few points even before entering the field of the chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra. Firstly, they should know it for certain that the form of Krishna, the form of the maha-mantra, the form of the service to Krishna and the form of Krishna�s servants are eternally free-eternally spiritual! Krishna, His abode and His paraphernalia are all spiritual and beyond the grasp of Maya, the illusory energy. No mundane consideration exists in seva or service. The seat, room, garden, forest, the Yamuna and every other thing of Krishna are spiritual and hence untouchable by matter. They are furthur aware of the fact that this, their belief is not a blind worldly faith-it is absolutely true and eternal. The exact forms of all these do not in truth manifest on this earth. Such ideas perpetually reign in the pure hearts of pure devotees.

Devotees who thirst for Prema and are on the way to it sing and realise this Hare-Krishna-Nama by counting. While chanting and remembering the maha-mantra incessantly, they remember His spiritual characteristics by the way of explaining to the mind the meanings of the maha-mantra. By this means their heart is very soon freed from every spot of scrapes and becomes pure and stainless; and with the morning twilight of the maha-mantra as the heart is puirified by constant rememberance, the maha-mantra dawns in the horizon of the pellucid heart with full shining rays.

Those who have accepted the maha-mantra are either self-realized devotees or are still trotting onward to self-realization. Of these, the latter class of devotees are divided according to their early and advanced stages. Devotees, besides these, who are eternally free, no more confound the soul with the body, never identify themselves with body and mind. Devotees in their early stage begin to chant the maha-mantra by a fixed number, and as they gradually increase the countings they come to the stage when their tongue stops not for a moment from singing the maha-mantra. Though choler tongued by avidya, devotees in their first stage have no taste for the maha-mantra, still a patient and continuous utterance of the maha-mantra proves to be the only remedy; now they feel uneasy if stopped from singing the maha-mantra, and a constant and regardful chanting produces a supreme liking for Him (the Lord). Zeal and earnestness to avoid sacrileges to the maha-mantra are very needful in the first stage, which can be done only by an avoidance of the worldly-minded men and the company of devotees. Incessant chanting of the maha-mantra will, when the first flow has passed way, naturally create a love for the maha-mantra and kindness to the jivas. In this karma, jnana and yoga have nothing to do. If their workings be even then strong, they may help the devotees of the maha-mantra in maintaining their livelihood. If the Hare Krishna maha-mantra be sung with a firm inclination, it will ere long cleanse the heart and burn avidya and when avidya vanishes, the brighter illumination of a true unbiased abnegation and a sense of the relationship between Krishna and the jivas will appear in the heart. Numberless times has this been proved to be true among the wise.

With a happy heart one should recollect the meaning and form of the maha-mantra and should pray to Krishna with a heart-rendering lamentation and this will draw the grace of Krishna which will lead him onward in the path of bhajan; or else, births will pass in vain like karmis and frustrated jnanis.

The case is different with those few lucky ones who have an exclusively firm faith in the Hare Krishna maha-mantra. They take by the unbounded grace of Krishna, the shelter at the feet of such a spiritual guide who is an ontologist of the maha-mantra, i.e. who has realized and does see the Swarupa (form) of the maha-mantra. Of the rights of such a preceptor, Shri Mahaprabhu says that though formal initiation may not be necessary still a guide is essential in the bhajan of the maha-mantra. The mere letters of the maha-mantra may be had at any place and from anybody, but the profound and unknown truth that is lurking behind those letters can only be exposed by the grace of a true preceptor who is purely devoted to Krishna. By the grace of the spiritual guide alone, one can pass over from the early twilight of the maha-mantra to the pure light of it and can save them from the ten sacrileges himdering the true service of the maha-mantra.

These premarurukshu (earnest desiring pure love for Lord Krishna) devotees chant and tell their beads three lacs (300.000) of times in 24 hours, and such felicity they find in the Hare Krishna maha-mantra that a moment they cannot spare without Him, then when no time can be kept in time of sleep etc. they become incessant in their bhajan. Repeated rememberance of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra as explained by Shri Gopal Guru Goswami will by degrees, drive out every scrap from the nature of man and then the maha-mantra appears in person before the spiritual eyes of the devotee. When the swarupa (form) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra fully appears, it is identical with the spiritual form of Krishna-the appearance of the swarupa of the maha-mantra is the appearance of the swarupa of Krishna. The more clearly and purely is the Hare Krishna maha-mantra visible, the more the bhajan proceeds in the presence of His swarupa, the more do the three elements of which primordial matter is said to be composed, namely sattva (the stand of goodness), rajas (the stand of activity) and tamas (the gloom of pride, haughtiness etc. of the lowest inherent principle), disappear and there appear the spiritual attributes of Krishna in the heart of the devotee. Then again, when there is a happy union of the Name, Form and Attributes of Krishna, and devotees in their bhajan see them, the Lila (pastimes) of Krishna is awakened by the grace of Krishna in their pure heart as soon as they are absorbed in deep and easy natural meditation. Incessantly then does the maha-mantra dance on their tongue, the form of Krishna is then visible to their soul�s eye, all the attributes of Krishna are then observed in their heart and the bud of lila blooms in their soul while they are buried in meditation. In this stage five conditions of the practising devotee are to be noticed.

1.Shravana dasha 2. Varana dasha 3. Smarana dasha 4. Apana dasha 5. Prapana dasha.

The happy mood which the devotee feels at the time of listening to the object of pursuit and the means to hear from the lips of a true Spiritual Preceptor may be called Shravana dasha. In this stage, every bit of knowledge about how to take the maha-mantra without committing any sacrilege to Him and of the processes and fitness of taking the maha-mantra is gained; this facilitates the continuity of the maha-mantra.

When fit to receive, the strung-together beads of Nama-prema can be had of Shri Gurudeva, i.e. the disciple with every delight and from the deepest recesses of his heart cordially welcomes the boon of surrendering himself to the feet of Shri Guru for pure and unalloyed bhajan and receiving invogorating strength and faculty from him. This is Varana-dasha (i.e. the choice of Shri Guru for bhajan by the acceptance of the maha-mantra and strength from him).

Rememberance, contemplation, concentration, constant meditation and trance (final beatitude) are the five processes of smarana. From the rememberance of the maha-mantra, the devotee thinks of the form which gives him a steady conception of the attributes; this steady conception of the attributes gives him a firm conviction of pursuing the lila of Krishna and having entrance in the lila he is completely absorbed in Krishna-Rasa. This is Apana dasha. By these smarana and apana, the devotee can know and adore the eternal and daily lila of Krishna at eight different periods of the day; and when he is deeply absorbed in it, he realizes his own self and that of Krishna. These self-realized devotees are Paramhamsas.

Then at the time of departure from this world, the devotee by the grace of Krishna becomes an associated counter-part of ideal object of his worship in Vraja and thus attains the summum-bonum of the bhajan of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra.

The following is the translation of a song from Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura�s Sharanagati:

�My heart is just like a desert, hot with the rays of the sun. This is my internal mental condition. The desire for mortal things cannot satisfy me because by nature they are death-producing. And not one or two, but thousands of such death-producing desires have taken shelter in my mind. So, my subconscious region is always burning. This is my condition. But somehow, by the grace of the sadhu and guru, the Hare Krishna maha-mantra with its infinite prospect has entered through the holes of my ears and reached the plane of my heart. And there, with some peculiar hope, with infinite, auspicious possibilities, it touched my heart with a new kind of nectar.

�New hope is aroused by that sound of the maha-mantra. Then by force it comes form the heart towards the tongue. Not that by the endeavor of my tongue I am producing that sound no. What came from the heart of a pure saint through my ear, entered my heart, and that forcibly appeared on my tongue, and began to dance.

�That is the Hare Krishna maha-mantra. It descends from above. It cannot be produced by the material tongue. It's source is above. And through an agent of the absolute it comes through the ear to the heart. From the heart it gathers some sympathy, then the maha-mantra forcibly appears upon the tongue and begins to dance. With great force it comes to the end of the tongue, and that sweet sound begins its dancing.

�The real effects of the maha-mantra have been described here. If it is a real and living mantra, the voice will be choked up, there will be shivering in the body, and the legs will be unable to stand. Sometimes tears will flow in a current on the body, and one's hairs will stand on end. Sometimes changes of color will be found in the body, and we will be unable to find any trace of the mind or consciousness.

�We may fall in a swoon, the whole body and mind will appear as if it is being attacked, shivering, and influenced in different ways. Apparently it may seem that so many troubles are created in the body and the mind, but the real heart is overflowing with a particular kind of strange, sweet juice. Sometimes the devotee thinks-I am in an ocean of nectar. My whole existence is within an ocean of nectarean liquid. I am beside myself. I can�t understand where I am. Where am I? What is this? What is all about me? It has almost made me mad. Am I a madman? Where is my past experience, my seriousness, my gravity, where are they? What am I? I have been converted wholesale by a foreign thing. I am a doll in the hands of a great force, which is also so affectionate to me. I can't ascertain how it is possible that by my faith I have entered this great, unknown environment, not experienced before. And at last I find that I am captivated. My entire being, within and without, has been captured by a particularly sweet force. I can't help being prey to such a sweet power. I can't give any proper description of this. I came to take shelter of Him (maha-mantra) and accept Him as my guardian; now at His hand I am being dealt with in such a merciless and despotic way.

�Still, I feel that everything is very pleasing, beyond my experience. What is this? I can't resist anymore. I am fully captured. Let my fate go anywhere. I can't come out. I am a captive in the hand of a sweet friend (maha-mantra); my whole independence is gone. There is no way left to me but to surrender. I am unable to describe my real position.

�I find that He's (Krishna in the form of the maha-mantra) an autocrat. Whatever He likes, He will do. Since it is not possible for me to give any resistance, I must surrender. Let me also cooperate with whatever He is pleased to do. Otherwise I find that the sweetness of the maha-mantra is condensed like a blossoming flower, and very wonderful streams of sweet current are flowing from it. The maha-mantra contains so many sweet variegated forms of current within Him, and He is wonderfully expressing Himself in different ways. Sometimes He emanates a peculiar type of color and figure, and disappears.

�So many charming aspects are shown as if to my eyes within, and He (maha-mantra) forcibly takes me to surrender at the foot of that altar. He shows Himself in His full-fledged form, in Vrindavana, in His Braja-lila, with Radharani, and He takes me there. I find that I am in the midst of His peculiar, very sweet and loving paraphernalia. And He says-You see! I have so many wonderful things. This is your home. I am not merely imagination, but concrete reality. You will find here that the environment is very favorable and sweet. You are to live here. I see there that He is dealing in different ways with His associates, in different rasas (mellows). And I find that I have another spiritual body that has emerged through the chanting process and the previous material one has been destroyed, and that there is a permanent place here in His service.

�Such a new life I find here. And then I find ultimately that all consideration of my past life and experience has vanished. And it is true: my real life is here (in the spiritual world). This is proper, and that was a sham, that life has vanished. Then I find that chanting the maha-mantra gives me new encouragement, a new prospect, and new hope. Whatever we want, whatever is our internal demand, it is supplied by the maha-mantra. If we take the maha-mantra, all our internal hankerings will be fulfilled. It is eternal, it is the purest of the pure, and it is full of ecstasy.

�Now I find I have been completely converted. How, my innermost hankering is this: Let whatever is against the sweet chanting of this Hare Krishna maha-mantra vanish eternally from the world. If anything is in opposition to this sweet life, let it vanish, and if necessary, I will give my life to make it disappear from the world forever. Then others will be able to enjoy it at their free will. No hindrance should come to that fulfillment of life. It has no other second. So, everyone may come here, and if necessary, I will sacrifice myself to finish any opposition, so that all can smoothly, peacefully, and without any danger, enjoy this absolute, sweet, and blissful life by constantly chanting the maha-mantra:

hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare;
hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare.�


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Re: Forever loving Nityananda Gauranga


Forever loving Nityananda Gauranga lyrics (adapted from Bob Marley)

(We'll be forever loving Nitaai-Gaura
We'll be forever loving Nitaai-Gaura)

Some they say see them walking up the street;
They say we're going wrong to all the people they meet;
But-a we won't worry, we won't shed no tears:
We found a way to cast away the fears,

We'll be forever loving Nityananda-Gauranga
(We'll be forever loving Nityananda-Gauranga)

So, old man river, don't cry for me;
A-have got a running stream of love you see.
So, no matter what stages - oh stages -
Stages - stages they put us through,
We'll never be blue
No matter what rages, oh rages,
Changes - rages they put us through,
We'll never be blue:

We'll be forever loving Nityananda-Gauranga
(We'll be forever loving Nityananda-Gauranga)

'Cause only a fool lean upon -
Lean upon his own misunderstanding, oh ho, oh, yeah!
And then what has been hidden
From the wise and the prudent
Been revealed to the babe and the suckling
In everyt'ing, in every way, I say

We'll be forever loving Nityananda-Gauranga
(We'll be forever loving Nityananda-Gauranga)

'Cause just like a tree planted - planted by the rivers of water
That bringeth forth fruits - bringeth forth fruits in due season;
Everything in life got its purpose,
Find its reason in every season,

We'll be forever loving Nityananda-Gauranga
(We'll be forever loving Nityananda-Gauranga)

We'll be forever chanting Nityananda-Gauranga
(We'll be forever chanting Nityananda-Gauranga)



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Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!
Dandavats and obeissances.

Nice story Nava, it seems like you were sincerely searching at the time and the Lord gave you a glimpse of his effulgence.

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna
Jagannatha Gauranga dasa



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