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Thursday, May 29, 2008

Re: Will, lack self-esteem and spiritual life


Igor wrote: 1. What is cause of our weak will?

Lack of determination.

2. How to develop burning desire for spiritual life?

By developing the strong desire to have that burning desire and to associate with those who have that burning desire.

3. I was doing small research. Lack of self esteem and weak will are "modern" diseases. Many propagate use of autosuggestion? Will it help?

There is no material solution. Enthusiasm, determination and courage are the only solutions.

4. Lord Chaitanya said that we should be more humble and tolerate then tree? What is difference between lack of self esteem, or will, and original humbleness?

One needs to have a strong will and determination to become humble and tolerant also.

5. Also some psychologist said that childhood have major role in our adult behavior. I had hard childhood and that reflected on my behavior, so I have pattern - not to confront to anyone - simply let it go and in material sense many are taking advantages of such behavior. Should I try to change it and oppose to others, even that requires arguing, quarrels etc or should I continue not to confront anyone?

Confrontation is not the right word. One should honestly and courageously communicate one's thoughts with others if one feels one is right according to the scriptures but in a palatable, pleasing and non-offensive manner. Not doing so is considered cowardice.

6. I found myself to be confused about proper way of acting. From one side - devotee should be humble and tolerant, from other side to survive in this world and render duties of material world person should be aggressive and self-oriented. How to resolve this?

One should be a lion in front of materialistic people (not allow oneself to be cheated by materialistic people) and a lamb (humble and meek) in the association of genuine non-exploitative devotees.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Bhakti


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Shri Guru Parampara! Pranams!   Dear Ganesamurthy, Welcome to NITAAI.com.

This is the right consciousness in which to chant the Holy Names of Lord Gaura Krishna. One should thank the Lord at every moment for giving us His Holy Names and allowing us to chant them with our tongues without considering our fallen position. If you murmuring His Names at most times, then that is the way to perfection. Always remember Naama, never forget Naama!!! Naama is the swift path to His lotus feet. Please let me know if I can serve you in any way. We also look forward to your increased participation and association here.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Radha's lotus feet


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Shri Guru Parampara! Pranams!   Welcome to NITAAI.com, sada.

Why should Radharani's lotus feet give darshan only once a year?

This is an interesting question. The pastimes of Shri Shri Radha Krishna are the most confidential secrets in Vraja. Even Lord Krishna's mother and father, Yashoda and Nanda do not have direct access to these pastimes. The vision of Shrimati Radha's lotus feet is only meant for the pleasure of Lord Krishna and Her intimate Gopi friends. But on the most merciful holy days of Radhashtami (Shrimati Radha's birthday) or sometimes on Gopashtami (Lord Krishna became a full cowherd boy), Shrimati Radha becomes extra merciful and grants the vision of Her divine lotus feet to unqualified souls like us.

This system in practiced to also create a proper sense of respect for the pastimes of Shri Shri Radha Krishna among neophye devotees and discourage them to approach the intimate pastimes of Shri Shri Radha Krishna with a cheap enjoying mentality. Shrimati Radha's lotus feet is not meant for our enjoyment but only for Lord Krishna's enjoyment. This system establishes that Radha-pada-dasyam is not cheap but instead it is very rare and confidential and should be approached only after proper purification and qualification.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Naam-shiksha and Naam-diksha


Were their Diksha-Gurus mantra giving gurus, not the naam giving gurus?

Both. The Mantras are also Naamaatmaka Mantras comprising of the Lord's Holy Names so the Mantra Gurus can be called as Naama Gurus also. And every Naama is also a Mantra, so Naama Gurus can also be known as Mantra Gurus. It is only that some Acharyas received the pure Naama by aural reception from their Gurus but there may not have been a formal initiation specifically for the Naama like they may have had for the other (klim) Mantras. But they did receive the Naama from their Gurus.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Missing portions in the Govinda Bhashya in Nitaai Veda Book


Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna! Dear Srinath, Thank you letting us know. I do not know if the missing portions of Govinda Bhashya are translated and available but let us see what can be done.  In regards to Shri Chaitanya Bhagavata, you can read any one of the various editions in the NITAAI Veda. The text in the online links from different sites cannot be corrected as they are hosted at their respective places. Shrila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada has not translated Govinda Bhashya but there are a few translations in English.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Re: Vedanta and Praise on the Govinda Bhashya


Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna! Jaya Shri Guru Parampara! Pranams!   Dear Srinath, This is a sublime realization about Govinda Bhashya.  I also hope that Shri Govinda Bhashya is known in the world more and more.

Unfortunately as the influence of Kali Yuga increases, fewer and fewer people are interested in the highly philosophical scriptures like the great Govinda Bhashya which was dictated to Shrila Baladeva Vidyaabhushana by Lord Govinda Himself due to the causless mercy of his beloved Gurudeva Shrila Vishvanaatha Chakravarti Thakura. People become more interested in the books which explain philosophy with example or stories. Examples or stories or pastimes relating to spiritual truths capture and captivate their dull minds and hearts much faster than those with only philosophy because the even though we have so many advanced gadgets nowadays, the level of intelligence has tremendously decreases over the four yugas. That is why the common man never desires to read great philosophical treatises like the Govinda Bhashya. Nor can they maintain their focus or attention even if they try to read it because of the dulled mind due to excessive sense-gratification. It is only after a certain degree of purification attained by Naama Bhajana, can we read and understand the deep secrets of Govinda Bhashya.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.



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Vedanta and Praise on the Govinda Bhashya


Respected Swamiji and all Vaisnavas,

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna!

Jai Visnupada Srila Prabhupada!

Jai Visnupada Swami Gaurangapada!

All glories to our Guru Parampara!

Please accept my respectful obeisances

      I have been going through the Govinda Bhashya on the Vedanta Sutra. When one reads it, it is immediately obvious that only the Lord could have dictated such a commentary. It was completed in just 18 days. To tell the truth, it takes longer than that to just go through it once!! While reading it, I felt like an idiot, in the sense, it was a very humbling experience. One wonders at two things. One is that when the subject matter, the context in the Sruti-Smrti is explained, before raising the subject matter (Vishaya), then looking at the opponents' views (purvapaksha), the siddhanta (the perfect conclusion), and when we see which sutras express Vyasa's philosophy and which express the opponents' philosophy and what is the natural meaning, then it becomes obvious when the full context is known what the sutra means and indicates the correct explanation. So many have said Vedanta is this, Vedanta is that...but on seeing the Govinda Bhashya one sees immediately that Vedanta is identical with Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam. The scriptural references comes from every nook and cranny of the colossal mountain of Vedic literature -- many scriptures which I never knew existed. It requires infinite knowledge -- only the Lord can explain the Vedanta Sutra so satisfactorily. Indeed for anyone who has read the Vedanta Sutra, but not the Govinda Bhashya, it is fully capable of causing heart stopping astonishment. Indeed when the scholars of Jaipur saw it, their eyes almost popped out of their head in shock!!

Of course, that said, Vedanta is the end of all knowledge, and hence it is well beyond what foolish souls like me can imagine or understand. So I don't know anything in the Vedanta. My knowledge is nothing. But I cannot help but feel that when the acaryas' mercy is there, even a fool can easily understand the import of a massive, massive subject like the Vedanta Sutra. I am simply stunned at what the spiritual masters and the devotees can do -- there is nothing that is impossible for them. Their mercy is simply beyond words -- I can only offer obeisances and ask them to show a drop of mercy on worthless wretches like myself.

     That also means that without the acaryas' mercy, nothing is possible as well. Without it, the most erudite scholar becomes reduced to the level of a fairy teller, who narrates childish fantasies in the name of the highest science. The observations on the modern day theories of science are sufficient proof for this. The latest thoeries say that an object exists as we know it only we observe it, and without observing, it is in limbo between a million possible states of existence and that our observation of an object creates a universe (the modern day parallel universes theory) and many others. It is just old wine in new bottle ("If I don't see it, I don't believe it exists"), or as children close their eyes thinking that the other person will not be able to see them if they are out of the children's vision. Bhaktisiddhanta Siddhanta Sarasvati said in a lecture on the ontology and morphology of the Vedanta that so many fanciful commentators have changed the very substatrum of the Vedanta itself., like the Mayavadis on one hand and the materialists on the other. I have heard that Bhagavad Gita is now used to earn higher material profits in business and for relieving stress to enjoy our sense gratification better. I heard that Vedanta explanations are given telling us to enjoy bungee jumping!!!! Believe me, I have seen and heard it myself while I was at school. That's probably what Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada meant. Behold how marvelously one can goof up if one doesn't study these things under a spiritual master an without the mercy of the Lord and his devotees! This is another matter that is really beyond words for the wrong reasons.

   This is why Srila Prabhupada dedicated his Bhagavad Gita translation "To Baladeva Vidyabhushana, who so nicely presented the Govinda Bhashya commentary on the Vedanta".  The same subject matter in the Bhagavad Gita is discussed in the Vedanta Sutra very elaborately. We may say confidently that Lord Krishna spoke the Vedanta to Arjuna. Srila Prabhupada wrote that Arjuna was not a "Vedantist", he attained the qualification to hear the Bhagavad Gita because he was a devotee. In the same vein, Vedanta is also for the devotee. So identical are the explanations. Only Lord Krishna knows the Vedas as they are and he is the author of the Vedanta. This itself indicates that Bhagavad Gita explains the Vedanta. Then comes the Srimad Bhagavatam. Now only I realise why Srimad Bhagavatam is the natural commentary on the Vedanta Sutra. The subject matter of the Vedanta Sutra is the subject explained in the Srimad Bhagavatam. What can I say, Radharani is explicitly pointed to in the Sutras in the descriptions of the Vedanta Sutra. So many sutras in pada 1 are explained in the context of some difficult portions in the Upanishads which actually directly descibe Lord Gauranga, such as the one describing Golden person in the sphere of the sun. The atmarama sloka in the Srimad Bhagavatam actually indicates Lord Gauranga himself as Lord Krishna is captivated by his own qualities and as Lord Caitanya he enjoys the highest mellows of bliss, in love for himself. This way the Lord himself is atmarama, finding bliss in himself. By knowing the Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam, the Vedanta is known. Now only I realise the import of what Bhaktivinode Thakura mentioned in the Navadvipa Dhama Mahatmya. Indeed the introduction to the Vedanta Sutra itself tells of the intimate relationship between the Vedanta Sutra, the Bhagavad Gita and the Srimad Bhagavatam, which is given by Srila Prabhupada.

    However. this commentary of the Vedanta sutra, while known to the Vaisnava world, is only given the status of a side word wherever it is mentioned on the net on topics reated to Vedanta, if at all. Only our sampradaya is fully aware of it/ So far practically the whole world does not know its true glories. Indeed, where I come from, Gaudiya Vaisnava is almost unknown. Even most of the learned community is unaware of even the existence of this commentary and this problem is seen very much over here -- nearly everybody thinks that Sankaracharya, Ramanujacharya and Madhvacharya are the only ones who have commented on the Vedanta for all time. I could be very well wrong and since this is a public forum, I have no interest or desire to make any controversial statements -- I am only telling you what I see here -- and I am gladly willing to accept and correct myself if you instruct me I am wrong. But since it hasn't been published like so many Vaisnava books, even among the intelligentsia few are aware of this commentary. I personally have not anyone who knows this yet. Factually the only idea of Gaudiya Vaisnava dharma in these parts is the remotest idea of something called ISKCON or the Gaudiya Matha. Apart from the Gaudiya Math, very very few people even know that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati had come to Chennai (then Madras). I personally was unaware that Srila Prabhupada had even come here unti I read one of his morning walks on the Marina beach! Many people still think our acaryas have not commented on the Vedanta. It is very depressing to read this kind of treatment given to it by the outside community -- the world outside our sampradaya that is. I am praying to the Lord, that the glories of the Govinda Bhashya must be known all over the world with the glories of the mantrarajas!

  Jaya Baladeva Vidyabhushana! All glories to Lords Nityananda Gauranga!  All glories to Radha Krishna! All glories to the Govinda Bhashya! 

Aspiring to be your servant,

Srinath



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Missing portions in the Govinda Bhashya in Nitaai Veda Book


Respected Swamiji and all Vaisnavas,

   Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna! Please accept my respectful obeisances! All glories to all the acaryas of the disciplic succession. 

I have a few doubts in the Govinda Bhashya in Nitaai Veda Ebook. I request your mercy on me.

First, is this Srila Prabhupada's translatation

Quote from the text : "Later on, Shri Baladeva Vidyabhushana took this doctrine and explained Vedanta-sutra strictly according to that principle of acintya-bhedabheda-tattva.

His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada"  

So is this translation actually Srila Prabhupada's? I wonder why it has not been made available like Bhagavad Gita or Srimad Bhagavatam. It will be nice to see if he has indeed translated the Govinda Bhashya. It is wonderful


While going through the Govinda Bhashya in the Nitaai Veda ebook, I found some portions missing in the Following place :

Chapter 2 : Pada 1 - Sutras 9 onwards along with all purports, etc. and the complete Pada 2 missing. It starts straight from pada 3 itself -- ether is created ..... a very big portion missing.
 
Chapter 3 : In Pada 2 - Sutra 9 to Sutra number 21 are missing with all purports. There is an ambigiuous section which shows that upto sutra 51 is missing (no text other than Sutra number and Purport) before starting from Sutra 22 onwards. This part was quite important as it was all refuting the Mayawadi explanations and what is available starts from refuting their Neti Neti concept.
 
I wanted to bring this to notice as I found it while reading through it. Will it be possible to include the missing portions (i.e. Restore the lost areas) in the next version of Nitaai Veda?
 
Also in the web link for Chaitanya Bhagavatha online (the pages with black background, yellow letters and Nitaai Gaura pictures), there is an offensive line in Madhya Lila, 8th Chapter where Mahaprabhu danced with a worshipper of Lord Siva, where it says the devotees chanted the name of the Lord in illusion after that pastime. This is not there in the translations of the verses. That too I felt was to be brought to notice.
 
I hope I was not offensive in any way. Please forgive me if I was or showed lack of manners or etiquette. I just wanted to help.
 
Aspiring to be your servant,
 
Srinath



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