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Re: Arguments?
Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krsna!
Dear Ishana, here are some quick thoughts...
Srila Prabhupada when queried by reporters early in his mission to New York, about the dhotis and other cultural items, suggested to the reporters that - he was implementing a 'cultural movement'. Now, it would be fair to say Srila Prabhupada was operating with a very high level of intelligence in this regard and endeavour! And saw practicality...
Sri Caitanya's early followers envisioned the greatness of the message of Love Of Godhead, and could foresee this message in far off towns and villages in the future. Wouldn't it be a possibility that true Vaisnava culture could be implemented and practiced within various cultures and terriitories? True Vaisnava culture, eternal culture... Many of us on planet earth are not attached to our place of birth, but do honor it. We are grateful and use what we have. We build from what we are. Use our talents and make them grow...and most importantly 'awaken to our true self' and offer that self to the Whole, Complete Personality of Godhead. A global village...
Some may envision a world full of dhotis and deep austerity. Well and good. Some may envision and world full of simplicity and love. The most important thing is to slowly move in the direction of what we are becoming... Wisely and gently and offencelessy. In my opinion, that is where the true integrity of Sri Caitanya's mission lies. We are that love...
Diversity is the defining principle and panacea for this world craving for the One.
y.s. Neil (Aus)
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Re: Worshiping Lord Jagannatha alone?
Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura established Shri Pancha Tattva in Shri Yogapitha Mayapura with only Lord Jagannatha and we are humbly following His footsteps. Since Lord Gauranga Mahaprabhu used to stand at Garuda Stambha in the Puri temple from where one can see only Lord Jagannatha. Lord Balarama is normally not there where Shrimati Radha is there and vice versa. Since Lord Gauranga Mahaprabhu is Radha Bhavayukta, He experienced great bliss in seeing only Lord Jagannatha from the Garuda Stambha.
Daaso'smi, BR Sadhu Swami Gaurangapada.
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Worshiping Lord Jagganatha alone?
Dear Gurudeva,
on Pancha-tattva altar in Nitaai-Math I can see only Jagganatha without Baladeva and Subhadra. I have never seen before that Lord Jagganatha is on altar without Baladeva and Subhadra. Could you please tell us more?
Your servant, Dayala Nitaai das
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Arguments?
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
I had one conversation and I just want to share some "arguments" that were placed before me regarding my spiritual life. Please help me to answer and act correctly. Your answers will also help many others devotees that may find themselves in simmilar situations.
"arguments":
1. It is not posiable for us westeners to fully absorb vaisnava culture and behaviour. There are too many examples of western born devotees, swamis and gurus that leaved this process. How many disciples of Srila Prabhupada are still here? Dont fool yourself that you can live in India and go to Swami! We are not mentaly and phisicaly fit for such way of living. Your attempts are just poor imitations.
2. You are practicing spiritual life because you are not materially succesful like others. You are only feed your Ego with this!
3. Practicing of your "spiritual activities" are just excuses for neglecting your material duties, family etc. Grhasthas must live family life, and you are acting like that you are in renounced way of life. Better earn some money!
4. You have some theoretical knowledge but no practical knowledge. For indian born devotees it is natural to live devotional-style life, we are born here (western countries) and should act according to that. Dont try to become what you are not meant to be!
Your servant, Ishana Thakura das
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
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1 -5 Chp 2 NDM Gauda Mandala
Shri Navadvipa Dhaama Mahaatmya
Dvitiya Adhyaaya
Second Chapter
Shri dhaama-svarupa o parimaana
The spiritual form and dimensions of Shri Dhaama
jaya jaya navadvipa-chandra shachi-suta, jaya jaya nityaananda raaya avadhuta ..1
All glories, all glories to the divine son of Shrimati Shachidevi Who is the sacred moon of Navadvipa. All glories, all glories to Lord Nityananda, who is the King of all transcendentally divine madmen.
jaya jaya navadvipa sarva-dhaama saara, se dhaamera tattva varne saadhya aache kaara ..2
All glories, all glories to Shri Navadvipa Dhaama, which is the essence of all the Holy Places in creation. Who has the capacity to describe the full glories and importance of this Holy Abode of Navadvipa?
navadvipa dhaama gauda mandala bhitare, jaahnavi-sevita ha�ye sadaa shobhaa kare ..3
The transcendental Abode of Navadvipa Dhaama is divinely glittering and beautiful within the region of Shri Gauda Mandala due to being constantly served by the most holy river Ganga.
e gauda-mandala eka-vimshati yojana, madhya bhaage gangaadevi rahe anukshana ..4
This eternal and splendorous Gauda Mandala covers an area of around 21 yojanas (168 miles). Shrimati Ganga Devi eternally resides in the center of Navadvipa at every moment in the form of her Holy Waters.
shata-dala padma-mayi mandala aakaara, madhya-bhaage navadvipa ati shobhaa taara ..5
The Divine Mandala of Shri Gauda is beautifully manifested in the form of a gigantic hundred-petalled lotus flower. The exquisitely magnificent Shri Navadvipa Dhaama is eternally revealed in the center of this lotus of Shri Gauda Mandala.
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Some Points by Chanakya
One has to toil very hard to get water from the depth of the earth; similarly a student should toil and render strenuous service to his guru to get knowledge from him.
Virtue is adored everywhere, not wealth and excess.
Virtue gleams in a wise person like a gem embedded in gold.
Truth is my mother, knowledge is my father, Dharma is my brother, compassion is my friend, peace is my wife and forgiveness is my son. These six virtues are my true relatives.
It is the virtue,which enchances one's stature, not the high posistion. Even if perched atop a royal palace, a crow cannot become a Garuda.
Great men do not attach importance to the riches but as they grow rich with the blessings of Goddess Lakshmi, they become more humble.
Even the Meru mountain may be displaced during end of Yuga, and the seven seas may be disturbed at the end of Kalpa, but the noble men never deviate from thier chosen path.
The Tree of the world bears two fruit filled with nectar: sweet speech and good company.
One must save money for the bad days because riches by nature are fickle even the large wealth can be lost in a second.
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Never again or always?
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
All glories To Srwami Gaurangapada!
All glories to Srillla Prabhupada!
In Bhagavad Gita Lord Sri Krsna said:
mam upetya tu kaunteya
punar janma na vidyate
�But one who attains to My abode, O son of Kunti, never takes birth again.� (B.G. 8.16)
He clearly states that person who attain His abode will never take birth again.
In Chaitanya -Bhagavata, Adi Lila chp.3 Vrindavana das Thakura is saying:
"Anyone who hears Lord Caitanya's pastimes immediately gets love of God and becomes his eternal servitor; he comes with the Lord each time He advents in this material world."
Dear Gurudeva, could you please help me to understand this so-called contradictory?
According to Bhagavad Gita person never again takes birth in this material world, according to this verse of Chaitanya Bhagavata, person takes birth every time when Lord advents in this material world!?
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
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