(GERMAN) 10. Srila Prabhupada über Nityananda Gauranga Naam (8)

9.Frage: �Warum sagst du: zehn Vergehen, zehn Vergehen, zehn Vergehen....? Vergiss sie und chante. Denk nicht an sie und sie werden verschwinden.�

Antwort von BR Sadhu Swami Gaurangapada:

Dies ist ein dummes Argument. Wenn die zehn Vergehen beim Chanten vom Hare Krischna Mahamantra einfach von alleine weggehen w�rden, w�rde es auch keinen Sinn machen, dass Srila Naamacharya Haridasa Thakura, auf Geheiss von Gauranga selbst, sie so detailliert im Sri Hari Naam Cintamani beschrieben hat, und uns gesagt hat, wir sollen die zehn Vergehen beim Chanten der heiligen Namen um jeden Preis und jederzeit gewissenhaft vermeiden. Warum werden dann die zehn Vergehen im Padma Purana erw�hnt, wenn wir nichts von ihnen wissen und sie nicht mit aller Anstrengung vermeiden sollen? Der Strauss, der vom Geparden gejagt wurde, steckte den Kopf und den Hals in den Sand als er m�de wurde, und stellte sich vor, der Gepard sei verschwunden. Aber der Gepard schnappte sich den Strauss und frass ihn. Das einfache Ignorieren der grosen Gefahren der zehn Vergehen wird uns nicht von ihnen befreien. Mann muss einen Weg finden, um sie zu vernichten, und das ist das Chanten der heiligen Namen von Nityananda und Gauranga.

10. Frage: �Alle deine Antworten machen viel Sinn, aber warum hat Srila Prabhupada nicht offen allen Diksha in den Nityananda und Gauranga Mantrarajas gegeben, wenn sie doch so wichtig sind im Kalizeitalter?�

Antwort von BR Sadhu Swami Gaurangapada:

Wie wir schon erl�utert haben, ist Srila Prabhupada ein strahlender und unabh�ngiger Acharya, und muss nicht nicht alle seine Anweisungen, die er in seinen B�chern gemacht hat, auch selbst direkt anwenden, aber er kann es seinen Anh�ngern �berlassen, sie auszuf�hren, je nachdem, was der Herr ihm zu der gegebenen Zeit angwiesen hat, zu tun. Jeder Acharya hat eine besondere Aufgabe, welche ihm vom Herrn zugeteilt worden ist.

Gauranga Mantra Acharya Srila Shivananda Sena chantete das Gauranga Mantra als sein Ishta Mantra immerzu, also muss er Gauranga Mantra Diksha von einem Guru empfangen haben und er muss Gauranga Mantra Diksha auch seinen Sch�lern gew�hrt haben, auch wenn diese Tatsache nicht in den Schriften erw�hnt wird. Es gibt so viele Spiele, welche nicht direkt in den Schriften Erw�hnung finden, um zu verhindern, dass jene zu umfangreich werden. F�r diejenigen, welche es annehmen k�nnen, gibt es auch die Beschreibung, wie Advaita Acharya die Mutter und den Vater des h�chsten Herrn selbst im Gauranga Mantra eingeweiht hat, bevor der Herr erschienen ist. Der erhabene Vorgang der Gauranga Mantra Diksha wurde von unseren Acharyas in der Vergangenheit ausgef�hrt, und kann in der Gegenwart durch die Gnade und den Wunsch der ganzen Sch�lernachfolge (Guru Parampara) wieder aufgenommen werden.

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Re: Cowherd Boys Friendship towards Krsna

Dear devotees,

       Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna! My pranams!

       I would like to share with you something that Hadai Nityananda Dasa prabhu shared with me in a talk. Once I did have the curiosity to ask him about high stuff in devotion, "What / who is this ... that?" He told me, "See. Simply becoming a theoretical scholar is no use. Devotion is not about digesting a big volume of facts and books. Simply by studying theory no one can understand all that. If one wants to see it, one should be qualified to go to the spiritual world. We do not want high spiritual matters to be brought down and stripped to mere theory. One should delve into the practice. These things have to be given their due respect. They are sooo much beyond mind and words."

          Swamiji has pointed out clearly that these things are very intimate and totally beyond the realm of theory. The higher aspects of devotion cannot be learned simply by reading books and digesting facts. It is beyond mind and words.

           Theoretically trying to understand through words what is beyond words may not be possible. The intimate realizations of pure devotees -- what will they mean to someone who has not realized them? People will just think its some illogical rambling and it certainly won't fit their present understanding. People will only simply ask, "How do you know its right or not?" How can we make a person understand colour by words when they have been blind all life and have never seen any light? How can one give any logical proof to things that have no logic and simply must be accepted? Ultimately one has to accept that the spiritual world is manasa vaacha agochara -- beyond mind and words.

          Even the forum has its limits and can only help a person upto a point. The rest has to be carried on by YOU and ME. Reading books is only mere scratching the surface and has to be accompanied by realization. One has to do sadhana and make oneself qualified to live in the spiritual world if one wants to realize the Lord.

           Let us dive deep into the practice. These matters are beyond our experience. I have seen this myself. Indeed this is the reason why even the advanced devotees here do not share their realizations, because they cannot be shared just like that.

Daaso'smi,
Srinath

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Re: Cowherd Boys Friendship towards Krsna

Following is the response I am giving to the discussion on my Facebook about this matter.

First of all let me state that I am not interested in revealing or discussing Shrila Swami Prabhupada's siddha deha either publicly or privately because he himself has not directly given the eternal name of his siddha deha and thus there will be no direct reference to back up my own realizations. My own internal visions and realizations during Bhajana clearly reveal to me that Shrila Swami Prabhupada is in sakhya bhava but I do not want to impose this on others due to lack of direct proof which I cannot provide to satisfy everyone. So if I discuss this in public and even if I reveal the eternal name of Shrila Swami Prabhupada's siddha deha according to my realizations, many will only brush it aside as speculation and will commit offenses against my own visions and realizations. That is why it is said aapanaara bhajana kathaa, na kaha yathaa tathaa .. "Do not speak here and there about your internal realizations during Bhajana and keep them confidential." Thus, I do not want to discuss it. I will only say the following in this regard.

Shrila Swami Prabhupada clearly addresses Lord Krishna as his brother in the cowherding pastimes in the following verse which was composed by Shrila Swami Prabhupada on Sep 13, 1965, in a very intimate early song, which describes his own internal Bhajana and his actual relationship and mood with the Lord. There is no other direct reference in his writings to prove otherwise or opposite to what he has revealed in this song. The Gopis in madhurya rasa do not normally address Lord Krishna as a brother nor do they pass the entire day with Lord Krishna while tending the cows. Sakhya rasa is very very sublime.

(8)
tomaaara milane bhaai aabaar se sukha paai
gochaarane ghuri din bhor
kata bane chutaachuti bane khaai lutaaputi
sei din kabe habe mor

8) "O my dear brother (BHAAI)! In Your company I will experience great joy once again. Wandering about the pastures and fields, I will pass the entire day with You in tending the cows. Joking with You and frolicking throughout so many forests of Vraja, I will roll upon the ground in spiritual ecstasy. When, oh when will that day be mine?"

Song Name: Krsna Tava Punya Habe Bhai, Official Name: Bhagavan Krsner Pada, Padme Prarthana (Prayer unto the Lotus
Feet of Krsna), Author: A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami (on board the ship Jaladuta, September 13, 1965)

This was also the opinion of the Shiksha Gurudeva of Shrila Swami Prabhupada, Shrila Bhakti Rakshaka Shridhara Goswami, who knew Shrila Swami Prabhupada much much better than anyone else, right from his grihastha days.

Though I may not agree 100% with everything written in the article, I accept most of the conclusions in the O My Friend pdf article written by Babhru dasa prabhu. It is available at http://nitaai.com/omyfriend.pdf. One will find a lot of clear and unrefutable scriptural proof and reasoning in this article establishing Shrila Swami Prabhupada eternal form as a cowherd boy in Vraja. Please read this article if you want to know more about this matter.

I also have my own realiztion that Shrila Swami Prabhupada's intimate, blissful and jovial relationship with his Godbrother Shrila Akinchana Krishna dasa Babaji, who is also in Sakhya rasa, is deeply related to both of their eternal forms in Sakhya rasa.

Again, this is all that I have to say in this matter publicly and privately since this subject matter is very intimate and has no direct scriptural proof of Shrila Swami Prabhupada revealing his own spiritual identity. If you want to discuss it further, please do so on your own webspages, forums or blogs. I am grateful to all devotees who have contributed in this regard. Gaurahari bol! All glories to Shri Guru Paramparaa!

Daaso'smi, Tridandi Bhikshu, Bhaktiratna Sadhu.

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Excerpts from Bhaktivinode Vani Vaibhava

Dear devotees,

        Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krishna! My humble pranams! Bhaktivinode Vani Vaibhava is the most important devotee handbook and it must be read compulsorily by all those wishing to advance. The Thakura has expressed all the profound teachings in very simple language.

       If you like to hear, we can discuss one topic every now and then in this thread. I hope this is of some service to everyone.

       The Philosophy of Synthesis

79-The Philosophy of Synthesis 

1. In what ways does one disregard the path of the mahajanas ?

You have concluded that the authorized sampraddyas are faulty, so you have become eager to purify yourself. You did not accept tilaka or tulasl beads. You renounced the trouble caused by accepting initiation and invented your own system of religion. (Kalydna Kalpataru Song 67)

2. What do the Harmonizers gossip about? How were the modern "Gaurarigas" chastised?

The same persons who practiced Vaisnavism four hundred years have now changed their mind and preached a new philosophy that harmonizes all religious systems. They thought this would be a universal religion. They further said that if one follows a particular religion, one could not pursue universal love. By merging all religious systems, universal love for all living entities can be awakened, they said. Last year, Srlman Mahaprabhu punished them completely. Some of them were removed all together from this planet. The rest quarreled among themselves and finally took up their respective  professions. Only one or two are still trying to pose as Gauraiigas, but being unable to get attention from civilized society, they are taking shelter of the cobblers. What a pastime Mahaprabhu is exhibiting! However Kali raises his head, Mahaprabhu smashes his attempts by hitting his head with a stick.
(Sajjana Tosanl 8/1)

3. Who are the real paramahamsas and how do they behave?

Those who have divine eyes consider the paramahamsas equipoised yogis, and those who are less intelligent or third-class people think they are attached to material enjoyment. Some people may even occasionally think the paramahamsas averse to the Lord. A swanlike person can identify another swanlike brother who possesses all the appropriate symptoms, whether he is from the same country or not. Although their dress, language, worship, Deity, and behavior may appear different, they should freely address one another as brothers. Such people are called paramahamsas, and Srlmad-Bhagavatam is the scripture meant for such persons. (Sri Krsna Samhita Introduction)

4.Why are there different modes of behavior and different sadhanas ?

According to one's nature one accepts his worshipable Lord, suitable sastras, and like-minded associates. According to the logic samasila bhajanti vai, or, "One associates with like-minded persons," various worshipable Lords, sadhanas, associates, and behaviors naturally enter the world. The worshipable Lord, however, is one without a second, despite these differences among His worshipers. (Sajjana Tosanl 11/3)

5. Is neutrality a principle of devotional service? Can it help manifest one's faith in the Absolute Truth?

Without developing faith in the eternal Absolute Truth, a living entity is never benefited. If everything is good in this world, then what is bad? If whatever one does is good, then where is the distinction between good and bad? Puffed rice and sugar candy would become one and the same. If there is no need for a living entity to perform sadhana, then what is the difference between a debauche attached to prostitutes and a paramahamsa completely free of such desires? Truth and illusion become one. Therefore, faith in the Absolute Truth is supremely beneficial, whereas attachment for temporary objects is abominable. Maintaining neutrality toward everything cannot be good. Rather, one should take the side of good and reject neutrality.
(Sajjana Tosanl 2/6) 

Daaso'smi,
Srinath

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Chanting during Solar Eclipse

Dear Gurudev,

Nityaananda ! Gauraanga ! Hare Krishna !

Dandavats Pranaam.

I heard that chanting during a solar eclipse is very powerful. Can you pls guide me whether this is true.

Thanking in advance.

ys,
Mihir.

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Re: Cowherd Boys Friendship towards Krsna

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!
Dandavats and obeissances.

Dear Guruji,

I know from one of your videos that Srila Prabhupada is a  Priyanarma-sakhaa devotee.  Personally to me he always seemed like a cowherd boy. Would you happen to know his eternal name and other details?

Your servant
Jagannatha Gauranga dasa

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