Re: Siddhis and the Power to Perform Mystical Deeds

Dear Guest, Nityananda!! Gauranga!! Hare Krishna!! Thank you for your post. I agree the siddhis or mystical powers are also given by Lord Gaura Krishna and they are for a purpose and purification. In fact, there are a test for us to show the Lord that we don't want anything less than pure love for Him. As it is said, there is no gain without sacrifice. Thus, unless we move beyond them, we cannot show the Lord that we deserve the highest thing. If we allow ourselves to be entertained by the subtly material powers we attain due to these siddhis, the Lord escapes from His main responsibility to give us His pure eternal love as described in the verse below.

Shri Chaitanya Charitamrita Adi Lila 8.18:

    krsna yadi chute bhakte bhukti mukti diya
    kabhu prema-bhakti na dena rakhena lukaiya

"If a devotee wants material sense gratification, mystic powers or liberation from the Lord, Lord Krishna immediately delivers it because He can escape without giving Prema Bhakti or pure devotional service, which He desires to keep very hidden (because He Himself has to personally serve His pure devotees) and never give so easily."

Once attained, pure love always remain with the soul eternally but siddhis are attained due to our pious credits accumulated over many thousands of past births and are only remain with us for one specific life. They may bring us great material power, name, fame and following in this one life, but in our next lives, we have to start all over again, if we desire to attain siddhis again. The residents of the siddha loka cannot stay there permanently and have to come down when their quota of pious deeds has been used up.

That said, it is described in the pastimes of the Acharyas, that they sometimes used siddhis or miracles (which are always at their disposal)  to create faith in the most faithless people for the Holy Names and the Lord. The most popular trend in India is "chamatkar ko namaskar". Even the atheistic class of non-believers will immediately offer their obeisances and very faithfully take up the spiritual process of chanting etc. if they see some external miracles, without even asking any questions about the philosophy, soul, God etc. Because these class of people do not have enough spiritual pious credits (sukriti) from their previous lives to directly accept Naama Bhakti Yoga and sadhu sanga, the Acharyas have sometimes used the miracles on this material plane, to awaken their faith for the purely spiritual plane.

Daaso'smi, BR Sadhu Swami Gaurangapada.

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Re: Siddhis and the Power to Perform Mystical Deeds

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krsna!

A sincere practicioner of spiritual life (internal practice) may find siddhis awaken 'spontaneously'. Rather than just criticizing the awakening of siddhis, wouldn't it be wiser to talk about the experience of the specific siddhi itself (that one is experiencing).

I consider it this way: God is so kind he wishes to give his children manifold blessings, even siddhis. He also wishes to bring his children into' maturity'. Maturity involves responsibility... God grants free will for this very purpose.

As spirit/souls we take this journey of self-discovery in consciousness, God consciousness (Krsna consciousness). Atma. When the siddhis arise we enter a new plane of existence. Initially the realm of siddhis (siddha loka) can be captivating. It can also be very difficult for some. Some remain there...that is simply the admonition of the masters of devotion...Don't remain there! Love has much more to offer. Goloka is the land of simplicity and beauty...ofcourse we must pass through Gokula first (where the master of mystic potency resides).

Some souls may be experiencing the realm of siddhis by God's grace and kindness. To mature them into being responsible servants. Maturing them to 'deep love'. Postive and progressive immortality you might say...

As people we could talk for eternity about a subject matter we have never experienced. For example: Canada is full of trees, mountains and snow. The people are nice etc etc........But unless we have been there, this is only words. If we have been there, the wise person applies good intelligence, and can then make comparison with other parts of the world, nations, geography and peoples. A whole vision. A bigger picture of diversity.

Siddhis may hold purpose, but, if only to inflate one's ego and sensory gratification then little lasting fruit....missing the purpose of God's wisdom in creation. Whereas simplicity and devotion is unlimited in scope (from a totally different angle of vision - LOVE).

your servant.

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Re: Siddhis and the Power to Perform Mystical Deeds

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!
Dandavats and obeissances.

Dear prabhus,
I agee with your viewpoint and what you said is certainly true.  Sadly though I am not a pure bhakta as of this moment, and I tried very hard to give up all my material desires, but I found that I was too weak living in this passionate society. It is very good to strive for pure devotional service and give up all material desires but for me I do still have flickering material desires. I"ll achieve success eventually though I believe.

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krishna!
Jagannatha Gauranga dasa

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