Re: Greatest Vaishnava

A conversation of  Guru Maharaj Prabhupada and Srila Sridhara Maharaj.

Sridhara Maharaja: It has been already described by Sanatana Gosvami in B�had-Bhagavatamatam. After crossing Brahmaloka,
Prabhupada: There is Mahesa-dhama, in between.
Sridhara Maharaja: Mahesa-dhama. And the devotee, Siva is devotee.
Prabhupada: Yes, everyone is... Siva's devotional prayer is there in Fourth Canto, about the four sons. What are those?
Sridhara Maharaja: Devi-dhama. Viraja to viraja, nirvise�a. The last conception or the highest conception of Devi-dhama is what are the conception of viraja; prak�ti ends there... Then begins...
Prabhupada: Karana, karanarnava.
Sridhara Maharaja: Karana, karanarnava. Then it begins Brahmaloka, the halo of the spiritual world.
Prabhupada: Effulgence. Yes.
Sridhara Maharaja: Spiritual world. And that is also some, some, somewhat nirvise�a. And then, after crossing that, the Siva is on the other, higher side or he is in lower side. That is differentiation...
Prabhupada: Siva is...
Sridhara Maharaja: Differentiation on two sides is Siva. This side also, Master of Devi, and this side also. He is searching after something and when the differentiated world ends in Brahmaloka, there also Siva is devotee. This side, Siva is a yog�. He's searching after. And then, there, he's going to meet Naraya�a, to face (indistinct).
Prabhupada: Both sides, he's a devotee.
Sridhara Maharaja: This side, he's not such a devotee. But that is pure devotee on the other side, Vaikuntha.
Prabhupada: Ah. Sadasiva.
Sridhara Maharaja: Sadasiva, Maha-visnu. On the other side, he's a devotee. Vaisnavanam yath sambhuh.
Prabhupada: Maha-visnu and Sadasiva, the same.
Sridhara Maharaja: Same.
Prabhup�da: Advaitacarya.
Sridhara Maharaja: Advaitacarya. On the other side. and this side, sometimes revolving. The other day, I told a gentlemen that �iva is rather the leader of the opposition party.
Prabhupada: Yes, in Daksa-yajna, that is the curse.
Sridhara Maharaja: In Dak�a-yajna and in many a place, many demons is encouraged by him. We find.
Prabhupada: But when Pracetas, Pracetas, they met Siva...
Sridhara Maharaja: That, that is that Siva, devotee Siva.
Prabhupada: Oh, they...
Sridhara Maharaja: Markandeya also in Bhagavatam, Markandeya worshiped Siva. But that is the devotee Siva. It is clearly mentioned in Bhagavatam. Markandeya's worshiping Siva. But that Siva is the pure devotee of Narayana.
Prabhupada: Pracetas, Siva, the Pracetas met in this material world or in the spiritual world? They met in the material world.
Sridhara Maharaja: I can't remember that particular... But Siva, this side also Siva, in the nirvise�a, on the lower side of the nirvisesa is also Siva, and the higher side of the nirvise�a is also Siva. Then Narayana.
Prabhupada: Here, he's Bhutanatha, leaders of the atheistic-class of men.
Sr�dhara Maharaja: Atheistic class. And his paraphernalia is Nandibh��gi, bh�ta, and his, and his eldest son is Vin�yaka, and he misguided... The leader of the misguided, Vinayaka, Ga�esa.
Prabhupada: Oh, Vinayaka. Vi-gata...
Sridhara Maharaja: Vinayaka. Not proper nayaka. Vik�ta-nayakah.
Prabhupada: Vik�ta-nayaka�.
Sridhara Maharaja: Vinayanikapamode-suddha-prabhu,
(?) that are protected by Krsna, and they, they...
Prabhupada: But in Brahma-samhita Ganesa is described: vighna-nasa.
Sridhara Maharaja: Vighna-nasa, but with the help of Nrsimhadeva on his kumbha.
Prabhup�da: Oh, I see. Yat-pada-pallava-yuga� vinidhaya.
Sridhara Maharaja: With the help of His lotus feet, he's able to... Otherwise, he's Vinayaka.
Prabhupada: (laughs) Vinayaka. Ganesa.
Sridhara Maharaja: (Bengali) posasas ca...
Prabhup�da: Misleader.
Sridhara Maharaja: Misleader, misguider, Ganesa, his eldest son. And he give support, Siva. Just as C.R. Das, he encouraged the Subash Bose and the other members of opposition party but he himself was a little common person.


Prabhupada: (Maha-visnu and Sadasiva, the same)

lowerthanarat: "Now I was still confused." as to the position of Lord Shiva is he demigod or more then that



Srila Sridhara Maharaj also said Lord Shiva is always looking for something, and chanting the holy names, but Lord Visnu is complete in him self, and not looking; meaning Lord Visnu was the number one.

Alway seeking the mercy of Sri Guru Gauranga and the viaisnavas

lowerthanarat

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