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Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Re: acceptance and equal vision


Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna
Thank you Nava for wonderful answer. I agree with you in most points. Let us discuss more about bhakti. Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

So if we can awaken to a vision that all is complete and perfect we will never see lack in others

As far as I understand devotees see duality - this world is not perfect and complete, what is missing is bhakti, devotional service. Impersonalists say that all is one, all is perfect, good etc. This world is incomplete and imperfect. We are also. We forgot Krsna. This whole creation is in lack of Krsna. We can not sit in jail and try to see cells and other prisoners to be perfect. Everybody here is in lack of Krsna.

So in a higher sense there is no need to feel sad or poor about our station.

I do not agree. How we can be happy if we are in separation from Lord? If we have no bhakti? We can not say that it is all right if we are separate from Him! We will accept whatever he wants, aslisya va pada-ratam pinastu mam adarsanan marma-hatam karotu va, if you like you may embrace me or if you like you may trample me, but use me as you like, but in the same time we are feeling sad or poor because we are not with Lord:

yugayitam nimesena
caksusa pravrsayitam
sunyayitam jagat sarvam
govinda virahena me

"My Lord Govinda, because of separation from You, I consider even
a moment a great millennium. Tears flow from My eyes like torrents of
rain, and I see the entire world as void."

So we may see as God sees, perfect love and acceptance..

Yes, but there is also difference in acceptance. There is always gradation. We may say - spiritual world. But then we have - Vaikuntha planets,we have Ayodya, Goloka Vrindavana, Navadvipa. There is huge gradation in spirituality.  God's love and acceptance is perfect, but there is also difference and gradation in that love. That is variety in unity.

ye yatha mam prapadyante
tams tathaiva bhajamy aham

�All of them as they surrender unto Me I reward accordingly.�

Please let us continue to help each other and discuss bhakti-katha.
Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna



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