Re: Initiation + lifetimes to reach the pure name

Dear Srinath, Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna! Pranaams.

But since we have accepted chanting of the mantrarajas, how different does that make our situation?

The ever-offensless Nityaananda Gauraanga Naama certainly do make it a lot easier to attain the offenseless chanting stage of Shuddha Naama in this very life itself if we chant an adequate qualitative quantity of these Names along with the Hare Krishna Mahaamantra.

The other topic is on initiation. Mahaprabhu said that initiation was not necessary for chanting the names of the Lord? What is the difference between those who chant without receiving diksha and those who chant after receiving diksha?

Initiation is not necessary for chanting the Holy Names. But initiation from a Guru who has realized the truths of the Name greatly speedens up the process of success in our Naama Bhajana because we receive the shelter and backing of the whole Guru Parampara via the medium of our own Guru.

When a person receives diksha one chants various gayatri mantras and in the Brahma Samhita Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati says that they indicate Radha Krishna in the madhura rasa. But we do not know what our svarupa is. So where do those mantras take us.

They awaken our dormant svarupa and impart us the required knowledge.

First initiation is harinama initiation and second initiation is mantra initiation. Is it true that mantra initiation was not given before Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati? Why is second initiation given?

That is no true. Previously Diksha meant the second Mantra initiation since Naama chanting can began without initiation also. For example, Lord Gaura received Diksha in the ten-syllable Gopala Mantra from Shrila Ishvara Puripada.

My apologies for the last post. I feel I have committed a grave offense.

Absolutely not Srinath. All your points were valid and we welcome such constructive discussions which lead us to the truth.

Daaso'smi, Swami Gaurangapada.

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