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Saturday, January 31, 2009

Re: how to defeat the Atheist


respected Maharaj's and practitioners brother do no lose your faith in battle with maya. we may get injured, but there is always another day to fight.

We are not foreigners; even the Mayavadis accept Sri Bhagavad Gita
So in chapter two it say we are soul not foreigners. To think we are forigners is foolish on the Mayavadis part.

17) Know that the soul who pervades the entire body is
imperishable. He is unchangeable and everlasting, and no one can destroy him.

18) Only these physical bodies of the eternal, indestructible, and immeasurable soul are subject to destruction. Therefore, fight, O Bharata, and do not give up your natural religious principles.

To think we are brahman is also foolish because it clearly says:
janmani jayate sudra, karmani bhavati dyija.

Show me the real brahman who can light a fire by mantra.

To introduce this vaisnava philosophy then you have to know your own limitation. Meaning kindergarden, first grade, second grade and so on. Don't get out of you depth
otherwise you will be in trouble.

An experienced preacher will know when to back off, and not get into an argument, better to leave as a friend you can always go back when you are a stronger preacher.

i seen too many people upset with the way some preachers carry on; better to leave as friends.

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Srila Prabhpadas quotes

The Mayavadis� accusation that devotees do not study Vedanta is false. The Mayavadis do not know that chanting, dancing and preaching the principles of Srimad-Bhagavatam, called bhagavata-dharma, are the same as studying Vedanta. Since they think that reading Vedanta philosophy is the only function of a sannyasi and they did not find Caitanya Mahaprabhu engaged in such direct study, they criticized the Lord. Sripada Sankaracarya has given special stress to the study of Vedanta philosophy: vedanta-vakyeshu sada ramantah kaupinavantah khalu bhagyavantah. �A sannyasi, accepting the renounced order very strictly and wearing nothing more than a loincloth, should always enjoy the philosophical statements in the Vedanta-sutra. Such a person in the renounced order is to be considered very fortunate.� The Mayavadis in Varanasi blasphemed Lord Caitanya because His behavior did not follow these principles. Lord Caitanya, however, bestowed His mercy upon these Mayavadi sannyasis and delivered them by means of His Vedanta discourses with Prakasananda Sarasvati and Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya.
Adi 7.42


Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu gave much respect Lord Shiva he is not an ordinary demigod

cc  adi 7/64 purport
Mayavadi sannyasis are always very puffed up because of their knowledge of Sanskrit and because they belong to the Sankara-sampradaya. They are always under the impression that unless one is a brahmana and a very good Sanskrit scholar, especially in grammar, one cannot accept the renounced order of life or become a preacher. Mayavadi sannyasis always misinterpret all the sastras with their word jugglery and grammatical compositions, yet Sripada Sankaracarya himself condemned such jugglery of words in the verse prapte sannihite kale na hi na hi rakshati dukrin karane. Dukrin refers to suffixes and prefixes in Sanskrit grammar. Sankaracarya warned his disciples that if they concerned themselves only with the principles of grammar, not worshiping Govinda, they were fools who would never be saved.



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