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Friday, July 31, 2009

What is really there in the Lord's heart


me: It has been problematic. It's mayavadi season here...And I have been sort of dragged to hear. But even there I asked the Lord where those people really stood....and so many realizations came

Swami: WOnderful

me: For one thing, mayavadis are so far impersonalistic that the only thing separating them from dead matter is the basic fact that the soul is spiritual and has consciousness always. They experience just that much of consciousness. They are so far away from the spiritual world, that all they can realize is just a big display of chit shakti -- the outer effulgence of the spiritual world
 
Even the effulgence is spiritual and so they experience some of it, But not more. They think they are going very close to the Lord so much that they will merge into him and establish oneness, but in truth they are really very very far away from the Lord.

The chatuh sloki bhagavatam is the origin of all spiritual knowledge .. And its very first verse is like realization of the Lord from the 'very wide angle' shot. And then the Bhagavatam zooms in further and further. The realization of Sridhara during Lord Gauranga's maha prakasha lila is the entire purport of the chatur shloki Bhagavatam itself! Why? Because of this :

   The chauth shloki bhagavatam contains the full Srimad Bhagavatam and fully elaborates on the three pillars of the Lord's teachings: sambandha, abhideya and prayojana tattvas. The 4 verses first start teaching sambandha tattva, proceed to abhideya and culminate in prayojana.

Sambandha: the living entity's eternal relationship with Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Abhidheya: The living entity's understanding of this relationship and acting accordingly.
Prayojana: the ultimate goal of life: Love of Godhead.

Actually in the heart of the Lord...there is only Himself! Ultimately He loves Himself, but He does it in a most astounding way as though he loves another person.

So He becomes two...He becomes Radha Krishna and He becomes Lord Gauranga and He also expands Himself continuously with all His expansions serving Him.  That was actually something to do with Sridhara's realization of Lord Gauranga. He was first saying, "You are everything." Then He says, "Everything is your devotee." So I read what you wrote...still it was not clear
 
Then the Lord showed me...On the Absolutely infinite scale...It's only the Lord who exists. Since nothing really can exist independently without Him. On the big scale it is only He who really exists , since everything 'else' is a part of Him. His existence is the big existence in which all other existences are included. When they say that the Lord does everything, its because His activity is the super big activity in which all other activities are included. That is oneness.

But then when you look more closer...there's more to Him than just one big piece of consciousness
 
He has many varieties of existence in Him. From the infinite to the infinitesimal and when one goes down further...we see that He has parts and parcels.

Hadai: yes
 
The Lord is the basis of all existance. And yes so everything is the Lord and everything is serving the Lord. There is no difference and there is a difference...substancially there is no difference

me: When you look closely...All the parts and parcels have varieties ... And there is a difference between the infinitesimal soul and the Lord

Hadai: however there is a multicolored varieity

me: Although the soul is a part of the Lord, it has only an atomic particle's worth of power

Hadai: to make the One into Many and Many are the One

me: And then when you look even closely
 
Everything is engaged in serving the original source of sources

Hadai: yes and why?

me: At all levels
 
The Lord serves Himself

Hadai: there is only one reason for all this arrngement

me: So that serving tendency is there in the souls too

Hadai: it is: LOVE

me: YES! YES!

Hadai: So all the Lords activities are arrangements for LOVE...ever expanding Love

me: So ultimately He loves Himself and so all His parts and parcels also Love...He is the object of love and also the person who loves

Hadai: Yes and He creates parts that are independent

me: Both the devotee and the objects of devotion...And to make love possible He gives independence to His parts and parcels

Hadai: so they can participoate with the same Love that He intends.... same wavelength again Srinath!

me: Right from the largest infinite scale to the smallest infinitesimal scale, He loves Himself

Hadai: Yes that is the absolute view

me: So ultimately..in His heart there is only Himself...And since we are a part of Him we are all included in that

Hadai: Yes and no

me: So it is yes and no

Hadai: from His point of view there is 'the other'

me: from oneness it is yes and from difference it is no...Yes

Hadai: although Himself

me: because without two we cannot have love. So although He is one, He makes Himself Two

Hadai: is independent...and has the smae free will

me: So He is one and Many...all one but also totally independent

Hadai: therefore He comes under the 'control' of the love of His devotees

me: Pendulums are swinging everywhere! smile smile

Hadai: Ultimately...he is under the control Himself...but He gives that away to His devotees

me: That also explains though...Why His love is ever expanding...That's its nature...Because its arranged the way it is

Hadai: YES

me: So that is why Sridhara ultimately says that everything is ultimately engaged in serving the Lord

Hadai: He and everything He does is so Supremely Beautiful...it is beyond our wildest imaginations and that to the power of infinite...yes if we want it or not we are serving

me: He took a 'snapshot' of the Lord right from the Absolutely wide angle to zooming in to all the intricate details, right smile

Daaso'smi,
Srinath



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