Re: Jiva controversy easily resolved

Nityaananda! Gauraanga! Hare Krishna!  Thank you Srinath for your illuminating essay. It is very lucid and most of your points are perfect. I fully agree with you in almost everything except the two points below:

2)When it is said that no one and nothing falls from Vaikunta, here Vaikunta or spiritual world refers to only the abode of the Lord minus the brahmajyothi.

The point is well taken but there can be just a little correction. Brahmajyoti is the effulgence from Lord Gaura Krishna's divine body so it's source is directly from Goloka. So Brahmajyoti also pervades the space in which the spiritual planets are floating. The tatashtha (marginal) line which is the original place of all the non-nitya-siddha souls, is the part of the Brahmajyoti between the material and spiritual worlds which mostly does not contain any spiritual planets.

That planet is sometimes referred to as Prapanchika Vaikuntha [�prapancika" means �consisting of the five material elements�]. There are many descriptions of persons attaining that place and then returning to this material world.

Before discussing the point about the Puranic quotes further, I am specifically interested in knowing who has written these above two sentences about this type of Vaikuntha. Are they Shrila Jiva Goswami's original words? Or a commentary by a later devotee?

Daaso'smi, BR Sadhu Swami Gaurangapada.

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