Re: What Nadiya Nagari bhava?

Swami: I have explained that the nitya-siddha female residents of the eternal Navadvipa do feel intense attraction for Lord Gaura and Lord Gaura satisfies their only in their heart. He does not enact the nagara pastime like Lord Krishna and thus does not dance with them.
Srinath: oh ok, because there was something on Vamsidasa Babaji
Srinath: The article said he was in Nadiya Nagari bhava so I had a doubt
Srinath: Whether Nadiya Nagari was the same as Gauranga Nagari
Srinath: swamiji, what was his actual relationship?
Srinath: But Siddhanta Sarasvati said that Gauranga nagaris were asampradayis
Srinath: didn't he.....?
Swami: Yes
Srinath: So Nadiya Nagari is a fake bhava then?
Srinath: ok
Srinath: I understand it now
Swami: A devotee can have all different types of feelings for Lord Gauranga, who is more beautiful than millions of Cupids, how can anyone stop that? But if that devotee expects that Lord Gaura will reciprocate with him or her in that conjugal way like Lord Krishna does with the Gopies by embracing them in intimate conjugal relationships or tries to see the pure relationship of Shri Shri Gaura Gadadhara is such a distorted way, then that becomes a deviation known as Gauranga Nagari or Nadiya Nagari.
Srinath: yes of course
Srinath: I am happy to see many more are taking it up
Srinath: I found that entry in Nitaai Veda
Swami: Jaya
Swami: So is it answered
Srinath: Well yes, it was an article of Vamsidasa Babaji Maharaja
Srinath: And the author had claimed he was in Nadiya Nagari bhava
Swami: The source of that article also needs to be checked
Swami: Sometimes those who want to practice Gaura Nagari bhava
Srinath: Use that as an excuse
Srinath: Actually Vamsidasa Babaji was in Vatsalya bhava right Swamiji?
Swami: They use the Acharyas to authenticate their own wrong Bhavas
Srinath: But what was the acarya's actual bhava?
Swami: That is an initimate question
Swami: He would always talk to Gopala
Srinath: ah! Then I see
Swami: So it is Vatsalya mixed with some Sakhya
Srinath: But why I asked is because a certain article had to be verified by Hadai prabhu and me and I wanted to confirm what I thought was doubtful
Swami: Yes, it is wrong
Swami: Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada accept Namshidasa Babaji as a Paramhansa so he cannot possess even a tinge of Gaura Nagari Bhava.

Swami: I wanted to write an article on Mantra Siddhi
Srinath: oh ok
Srinath: An article
Swami: Mantra Siddhi is see the Mantri with spiritual vision when we chant the Mantra
Srinath: ok
Srinath: Meaning we see the Lord
Srinath: and all those realisations
Swami: Yes
Swami: the degrees of seeing Him also different
Swami: Some can see His form, some can see His form and qualities, some can see His form, qualities, pastimes, some can see His form, qualities, pastimes, abode and some can see His form, qualities, pastimes, abode and associates, and some after realizing all this while chanting can factually enter into those pastimes while Naama Smarana. So there are different levels of Mantra Siddhi.
Srinath: Wow!
Swami: The last one is the most rare, there are only a very few handful of devotees on this planet at any point of time on that stage.

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