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Saturday, July 11, 2009

Re: Conundrum


Dear Bruce I will humbly try to post some scriptural referencess. Gurudeva explained everything, just want to share some references 

1. "I became steady in my spiritual practices.  I became so attached to these holy names now."

gaura-nama na laiya, yei krsna bhaje giya;
sei krsna bahu kale paya.
gaura-nama laya jei, sadya krsna paya sei;
aparadha nahi rahe taya.

"If someone endeavours to worship Krsna without regularly chanting the name
of Lord Gauranga, then he or she will achieve Krsna only after a very
prolonged period of time. But if someone takes shelter of the names of Lord
Gauranga, he or she will achieve Krsna very soon because his offenses will
cease to exist." Shri Navadvipa-dhama-mahatmya, Chp 7


Naam and Lord are non-different. You are saying that you are attached to Holy Names and that is confirmed here "if someone takes shelter of the names of Lord
Gauranga, he or she will achieve Krsna very soon because his offenses will
cease to exist ".


2."I was told that I was not intellect because I'm trying to concoct some nonsense."

Quote one:

"apane bolana more, iha yadi jani; amara ista-mantra jani' kahena apani.
'gaura-gopala mantra' tomara cari aksara; avisvasa chada, yei kariyacha antara"

Nakula Brahmacari told Sivananda Sena, "You are chanting the Gaura-gopala mantra, composed of four syllables (which is your ista-mantra i.e. worshippable mantra). Now please give up the doubts that have resided within you."

Purport by Shrila Prabhupada:

Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura explains the Gaura-gopala mantra in his Amrta-pravaha-bhasya. Worshipers of Shri Gaurasundara accept the four syllables 'gau-ra-an-ga' as the Gaura mantra, but pure worshipers of Radha and Krishna accept the four syllables ra-dha krs-na as the Gaura-gopala mantra. However, Vaishnavas consider Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu nondifferent from Radha-Krishna (shri-krishna-chaitanya radha-krishna nahe anya). Therefore one who chants the mantra "gauranga" and one who chants the names of Radha and Krishna are on the same level."  End of Purport

Quote two:

"In Shri Chaitanya-mangala Sutra-khanda Verse 527 by Shrila Locana Dasa Thakura, the four-syllable Gauranga-mantra is described as the mantra through which Lord Gauranga is worshipped in Goloka Vrndavana, the topmost Vaikuntha planet in the spiritual world:

hema-gaura kalevara, mantra cari-aksara; sahaja vaikuntha-natha syama.

"The Lord sits on a golden bejewelled throne. He posseses a complexion millions of times more brilliant than the colour of molten gold. He is worshipped by all His devotees with the four-syllable mantra, 'Gauranga'."

End of purport

So, did Sivananda-Sena, Shrila Locana Dasa Thakura, Shrila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Srila Prabhupad and numerous other acharyas (you can find unlimited support in sastras in Nitaai Veda) also "concoct some nonsense"?


There is also beautiful book "Sri Guru and His Grace".  When I was in position similar to your present situation that book helps me a lot to understand dynamic of Guru tattva.

You can find it online at http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/srila_sr … _guru.html

Nityananda Gauranga Hare Krsna

Yours in service of Swami Gaurangapada,
                          Ishana Thakura das



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